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From Thomas Weise <tho...@datatorrent.com>
Subject Re: Apache Apex as component in Apache bigtop
Date Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:58:49 GMT
Not only is there no objection, here is an enthusiastic +1

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <chinmay@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I believe there is no object on the smoke test to be added to bigtop for
> apex package.
> I've created smoke tests for bigtop as per above.
>
> If there no further comments, I'll create a pull request for the same.
>
> Thanks,
> Chinmay.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <chinmay@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Bigtop has consumed first patch for building apex packages into it's
> > master branch.
> > Commit mail:
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-commits/201602.mbox/%3C06c0ca62ac1b483d8ded090f0f2c8d73%40git.apache.org%3E
> >
> > What this means is bigtop master will be able to generate apex packages
> > (3.3.0-incubating), both deb & rpm, when it build.
> >
> > For the second phase, we need to add smoke tests for our package in
> bigtop
> > repo.
> > This is an important steps for bigtop to host the generate package in
> > bigtop repository during its 1.2.0 release.
> >
> > Here are my initial thoughts about smoke test:
> > TEST::
> > 1. Create mvn app with archetype
> > 2. Build app
> > 3. Run app with apex/dtcli
> >
> > VERIFICATION:
> > 1. stdout file gets has random numbers per line.
> >
> > I see app created by archetype is randomNumberGenerator -> Console.
> > I think this should be a good enough smoke test for apex package.
> >
> > Of course I need to check if we can do above with bigtop framework. But I
> > have a hunch that we can, because there are standalone frameworks like us
> > which has similar types of tests.
> >
> > Please share your opinion and thoughts on this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chinmay.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Weise <thomas@datatorrent.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We should not package any Hadoop dependencies, they are provided by the
> >> Bigtop stack.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Tushar Gosavi <tushar@datatorrent.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just did a quick install of bigtop 1.1.0 on ubuntu and observed that
> >> >  jersey-client-1.9.jar is already packaged in hadoop
> >> > /usr/lib/hadoop/client/jersey-client.jar, so I guess it will be ok to
> >> > include those in apex lib too. or If we are including hadoop jars
> >> > in classpath while launching the apex application then it may not be
> >> > needed.
> >> >
> >> > - Tushar.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > No worries David. I've updated the manpage.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just an update: apex bigtop packaging for rpm+deb is done. Here is
> the
> >> > > branch on which I'm working if someone wants to look at:
> >> > > https://github.com/chinmaykolhatkar/bigtop/blob/BIGTOP-2314
> >> > >
> >> > > Only the 3rd questions below is the question that is left to be
> >> answered.
> >> > > Once this is resolved, I'll create the pull request in bigtop.
> >> > >
> >> > > Following questions are related to licenses and inclusion of certain
> >> > files
> >> > > in apex rpm+deb:
> >> > > 1. I'll be included LICENSE, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE from top folder of
> >> core
> >> > > repo in our rpm and deb package. Those will be present in standard
> >> > location
> >> > > i.e. /usr/lib/apex/
> >> > > Please let me know otherwise.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. Most of our runtime dependencies has ASF license, but certain
> >> > libraries
> >> > > has MIT and BSD licenses, hence I've included those licenses too in
> >> rpm &
> >> > > deb package in same location as above.
> >> > > Please let me know otherwise.
> >> > >
> >> > > BSD - jline-2.11.jar, kryo-2.24.0.jar, minlog-1.2.jar
> >> > > MIT - mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> >> > >
> >> > > 3. There are 2 jars (jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar,
> >> > jersey-client-1.9.jar)
> >> > > which has duel license of CDDL + GPLv2 with classpath exception:
> >> > > https://jersey.java.net/license.html
> >> > > I'm not an expert here. Hence can someone let me know whether these
> >> > > libraries is OK to be packaged in rpm+deb of apex?
> >> > >
> >> > > If yes, should we also include that license in our package?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Chinmay.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM, David Yan <david@datatorrent.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I should've mentioned that I had a pull request that was merged
> >> > yesterday
> >> > > > that corrected the statement:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > https://github.com/DataTorrent/docs/pull/45
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
> >> > tushar@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > In following statement, can you replace dtGateway with
> >> > > ApplicationMaster
> >> > > > > and Yarn. or may be remove this statement entirely.
> >> > > > > apex is a wrapper around the REST API provided by dtGatway,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > - Tushar.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> >> > > chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I've attached man page for apex in Jira. Here is the link to
> it:
> >> > > > > >
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12788403/apex.1
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Please view it by: man -l apex.1
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
> >> > > > tushar@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hi Chinmay,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I am not able to find the attachment, may be attachments are
> >> not
> >> > > > > allowed
> >> > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > the mailing list. Can you attach the man page to the Jira?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > - Tushar.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> >> > > > chinmay@apache.org
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I've attached man page file for the purpose of bigtop
> >> > > integration.
> >> > > > > > > > Please have a look and let me know if there any any
> feedback
> >> > > about
> >> > > > > it.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > You can see the man page content of this file with:
> >> > > > > > > > man -l apex.1
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> >> > > > > > chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> Thanks. Will follow bigtop recommendation. i.e. remove
> >> > > > > "-incubating".
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Thomas Weise <
> >> > > > > thomas@datatorrent.com
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> Please follow the recommendation and continue discussion
> >> on
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > Bigtop
> >> > > > > > > >>> list.
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>> --
> >> > > > > > > >>> sent from mobile
> >> > > > > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2016 8:17 AM, "Chinmay Kolhatkar" <
> >> > > chinmay@apache.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > I got a recommendation from bigtop community to drop
> >> > > > > "-incubating"
> >> > > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > version.
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Here is the mail thread:
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-dev/201602.mbox/%3C20160216154548.GA4472%40tpx%3E
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Please let me know if removing "-incubating" is fine.
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> >> > > > > > > chinmay@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > > I've already started communication there.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Thomas Weise <
> >> > > > > > > >>> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> This is a question you should ask on the Bigtop
> >> mailing
> >> > > > list.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> --
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> sent from mobile
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> On Feb 16, 2016 5:25 AM, "Pradeep A. Dalvi" <
> >> > > > prad@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Yes. In case of RPM, the only restriction on
> >> version
> >> > is
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > >>> can
> >> > > > > > > >>> > not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > contain '-'.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > However, as a workaround, one can use
> 'incubating'
> >> as
> >> > a
> >> > > > part
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> %{release}.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Version: 3.3.0
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Release: incubating
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > apex-3.3.0-incubating.noarch.rpm
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > It is the same practice followed for pre-release
> >> > > packages
> >> > > > > e.g.
> >> > > > > > > >>> with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > rcX,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > alphaX, betaX being used in %{release}.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Regards,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Pradeep A. Dalvi
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Chinmay
> Kolhatkar
> >> <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Hi Everyone,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > In one of the previous mails in this thread, we
> >> > > decided
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > >>> version
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > package will be "3.3.0-incubating".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > The problem that I'm facing is in RPM base
> >> version
> >> > "-"
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > > not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > allowed.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Can we have package version to "3.3.0"?
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > i.e. the packages created will be as follows:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For RPM: apex-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > For DEB: apex_3.3.0-1_all.deb
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > There is another integration for Zepplin in
> >> Bigtop
> >> > > which
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > incubating
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is having base version as "0.5.6".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Please let me know your thoughts.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chinmay
> >> Kolhatkar
> >> > <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Also as Ram and David mentioned, I'll start
> >> > creating
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > man
> >> > > > > > > >>> page
> >> > > > > > > >>> > as
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > well.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Thomas
> Weise <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> I think we already agreed that we will
> retain
> >> the
> >> > > > > current
> >> > > > > > > >>> script
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> name
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> this bigtop iteration. There is a ticket for
> >> > > > renaming,
> >> > > > > > add
> >> > > > > > > >>> you
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > suggestions
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> there.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> --
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> sent from mobile
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> On Feb 15, 2016 4:56 PM, "Sandesh Hegde" <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > sandesh@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > +1 for Symlink from apex to dtcli or start
> >> the
> >> > > > > > transition
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> process by
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> making
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli as the symlink to apex cli.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Renaming is a breaking change should be
> done
> >> > > during
> >> > > > > > major
> >> > > > > > > >>> > version
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > number
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > change.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM David Yan
> <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > david@datatorrent.com
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Apologies for hitting the "Send" button
> >> too
> >> > > > early.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > What is the scope of the name change?
> If
> >> we
> >> > > > simply
> >> > > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > > >>> a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> symlink
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no
> >> > backward
> >> > > > > > > >>> compatibility
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > problem
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> at
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But the proper name change would
> involve:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
> >> ApexCli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the initial greeting when
> running
> >> > the
> >> > > > CLI
> >> > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> something
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > like
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > "DT
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI
> >> ...".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > The above changes may break existing
> >> scripts
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > rely
> >> > > > > > > >>> on the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> string
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But if folks are okay with this
> potential
> >> > > > problem,
> >> > > > > I
> >> > > > > > am
> >> > > > > > > >>> okay
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > name
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > change.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For the man page, we can start with the
> >> > content
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > > this
> >> > > > > > > >>> page:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > http://docs.datatorrent.com/dtcli/
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Plus the command line options when doing
> >> > dtcli
> >> > > > -h:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > usage: DTCli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -e <arg>    Commands are read from the
> >> > > argument
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -f <arg>    Use the specified prompt at
> >> all
> >> > > time
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -h          Print this help
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kp <arg>   Use the specified kerberos
> >> > > principal
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kt <arg>   Use the specified kerberos
> >> > keytab
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -p <arg>    JSONP padding function
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -r          JSON Raw mode
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -v          Verbose mode level 1
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vv         Verbose mode level 2
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvv        Verbose mode level 3
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvvv       Verbose mode level 4
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > David
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, David
> >> Yan <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> david@datatorrent.com
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > What is the scope of the name change?
> >> If
> >> > we
> >> > > > > simply
> >> > > > > > > >>> have a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > symlink
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no
> >> > > backward
> >> > > > > > > >>> > compatibility
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> problem at
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But the proper name change would
> >> involve:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the name of DTCli class to
> >> ApexCli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the initial greeting when
> >> running
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > CLI
> >> > > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > something
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> like
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI
> >> > ...".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > The above changes may break existing
> >> > scripts
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > > > rely
> >> > > > > > > >>> on
> >> > > > > > > >>> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > string
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > "DT".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But if folks are okay with this
> >> potential
> >> > > > > problem,
> >> > > > > > I
> >> > > > > > > am
> >> > > > > > > >>> > okay
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > name
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > change.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > For the man page, we can start with
> the
> >> > > content
> >> > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > this
> >> > > > > > > >>> > page:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM,
> Chinmay
> >> > > > > Kolhatkar
> >> > > > > > <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> chinmay@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Here is a suggestion I have related
> to
> >> > name
> >> > > > > > change:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 1. While packaging we change the name
> >> of
> >> > > > "dtcli"
> >> > > > > > > >>> script to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > "apex".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> done so that in future when we change
> >> the
> >> > > name
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> "apex",
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> users
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > bigtop
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> apex don't have to transition much.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 2. We also keep a symlink named dtcli
> >> > which
> >> > > > > points
> >> > > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> apex
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > script.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for backward compatibility.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 3. We still keep conf/dt-env.sh for
> >> first
> >> > > > > > > integration
> >> > > > > > > >>> in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > bigtop.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> This
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> the interest of not changing the
> >> content
> >> > of
> >> > > > > dtcli
> >> > > > > > or
> >> > > > > > > >>> apex
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > script.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 4. In apex 3.4.0, we take care of all
> >> > these
> >> > > > > naming
> >> > > > > > > >>> related
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > changes
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> update bigtop repository later to
> >> remove
> >> > > > > > references
> >> > > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > all
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > together.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on above
> >> > > approach.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Also, please share what could be the
> >> man
> >> > > page
> >> > > > > > > content
> >> > > > > > > >>> for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "apex".
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM,
> >> Chinmay
> >> > > > > > Kolhatkar <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > chinmay@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes.. It'll be build from source
> tar
> >> > > > > downloaded
> >> > > > > > > >>> from one
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apache
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > mirror: apache.osuosl.org
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > The reason for dt-env.sh is it's
> >> sourced
> >> > > > from
> >> > > > > > > dtcli.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > This
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > leaves
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> us
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > 3
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > options:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > If we should not have any
> dt-env.sh,
> >> > dtcli
> >> > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > >>> need a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > change
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> while
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > packaging.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > But if we want to use dtcli as it
> is,
> >> > then
> >> > > > we
> >> > > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > >>> need
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM,
> >> Thomas
> >> > > > Weise
> >> > > > > <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > thomas@datatorrent.com
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Looks good overall, though there
> >> > > shouldn't
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > > > any
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> What will the bigtop package be
> >> built
> >> > > from,
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> source
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> tar?
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM,
> >> > Chinmay
> >> > > > > > > Kolhatkar
> >> > > > > > > >>> <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > chinmay@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Hi Thomas,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > First, we're not changing the
> name
> >> > > > > anywhere.
> >> > > > > > > >>> We'll
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> follow
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > what
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> currently is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in source tarball for
> >> > 3.3.0-incubating
> >> > > > > > version.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Secondly, I've mentioned a
> >> directory
> >> > > > > > structure
> >> > > > > > > >>> below
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > inline
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > other existing integrations with
> >> > > bigtop.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The need for each file is as
> >> follows:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 1. bin/dtcli -> CLI for apex
> >> picked
> >> > > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> engine/src/main/scripts/
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> source
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > code apex 3.3.0-incubating.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 2. conf/dt-env.sh -> This is
> >> source
> >> > > from
> >> > > > > > dtcli.
> >> > > > > > > >>> This
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > searches
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> hadoop
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > binary path and exports an env
> >> > variable
> >> > > > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> use
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > it.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3. lib/ -> Libraries for CLI.
> This
> >> > list
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> extracted
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> in a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> similar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> way to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > how DT Community Edition finds
> >> > > dependency
> >> > > > > > jars.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please note that this is the
> first
> >> > > > > iteration
> >> > > > > > > >>> list of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> jars.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > I'm
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> trying to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > narrow this down to only those
> >> which
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > really
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> required.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The test that I'm running to
> >> check if
> >> > > > dtcli
> >> > > > > > > runs
> >> > > > > > > >>> fine
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> given
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dependency
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > is to
> launch+shutdown+kill+status
> >> for
> >> > > pi
> >> > > > > > demo.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Above is the directory structure
> >> > which
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> required
> >> > > > > > > >>> > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> CLI
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > work.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > What aniruddha and pradeep has
> >> > > mentioned
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > some
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > additional
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > files
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> which
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > makes the like of administrator
> >> > easier.
> >> > > > For
> >> > > > > > eg.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> /etc/skel
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please let me know if this is
> >> inline
> >> > > with
> >> > > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > >>> you're
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> thinking.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > .
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- bin
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- conf
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > `-- lib
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> apex-api-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > > > > > apex-bufferserver-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > > apex-common-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine-tests.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-core-0.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-codec-1.10.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> commons-logging-1.1.3.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > grizzly-http-servlet-2.1.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpcore-4.3.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- javax.servlet-3.1.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> javax.servlet-api-3.0.1.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jersey-client-1.9.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > jetty-http-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> jetty-io-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > jetty-util-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jline-2.11.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- kryo-2.24.0.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- minlog-1.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netlet-1.2.0.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- objenesis-2.1.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> >> > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     `-- zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3 directories, 40 files
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:24 AM,
> >> > Thomas
> >> > > > > > Weise <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Chinmay,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Before discussing where to put
> >> the
> >> > > > files,
> >> > > > > > > let's
> >> > > > > > > >>> > make
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sure
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> they
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > are
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> really
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > needed for the operation of
> the
> >> > CLI.
> >> > > As
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> names,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > anything
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> needs
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > reflect Apex in the name and
> >> should
> >> > > > > follow
> >> > > > > > > >>> common
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> conventions,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> especially
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in Bigtop where there are many
> >> > > existing
> >> > > > > > > >>> > integrations
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > look
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > at.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thomas
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:07
> AM,
> >> > > > Chinmay
> >> > > > > > > >>> Kolhatkar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > chinmay@datatorrent.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Really good points Pradeep
> and
> >> > > > > Aniruddha.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 1. I believe we won't need
> to
> >> > > change
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> considering it
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > DT
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Community edition. We can
> keep
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > directory
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> structure
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > similar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dt-env.sh has variables
> which
> >> > > > contains
> >> > > > > > > >>> > information
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> required
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > launch.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2. Let me check with bigtop
> >> > > community
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > >>> > whether
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > they
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> facilitate
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > installation of rpms/debs
> >> before
> >> > > user
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> created.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> In
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> either
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > case,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > current
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dtcli creates a .dt folder
> in
> >> > home
> >> > > > > > > directory.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Also
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > before
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > putting
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > anything
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in /etc/skel we need to
> define
> >> > what
> >> > > > are
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > default
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> contents
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > that
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > should
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > go
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to ~/.dt/ folder. If there
> is
> >> no
> >> > > > > > defaults,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> probably we
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> should
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > explicitly add it in
> >> /etc/skel.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 3.  /etc/profile.d approach
> >> looks
> >> > > > nice.
> >> > > > > > > This
> >> > > > > > > >>> way
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > contents
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > present as env variables.
> But
> >> I
> >> > > see a
> >> > > > > > catch
> >> > > > > > > >>> > there.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Adding
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > /etc/profile.d would make
> all
> >> the
> >> > > > > > variables
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> available
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > at
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > runtime
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > time. I feel a little
> >> skeptical
> >> > > about
> >> > > > > > that.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Maybe a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> possible
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> collision
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > can
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > occur with other application
> >> > vars.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Moreover, current dtcli does
> >> > source
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > "../conf/dt-env.sh"
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > "~/.dt/dt-env.sh". So those
> >> > > variables
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > >>> anyway
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> available.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > @Aniruddha, the Jira and PR
> >> > effort
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> happening
> >> > > > > > > >>> > at
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > Bigtop
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Jira/repository.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Packaging related code
> usually
> >> > goes
> >> > > > > > there.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > (That's
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > what
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> all
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > components
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in bigtop does).
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Having said that, once a PR
> is
> >> > > > created,
> >> > > > > > > I'll
> >> > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sharing
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > link
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> PR
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > here, so that apex community
> >> as
> >> > > well
> >> > > > > can
> >> > > > > > > >>> review
> >> > > > > > > >>> > it.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Chinmay.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:57
> >> PM,
> >> > > > > > Aniruddha
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> Thombare <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > aniruddha@datatorrent.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > +1 on suggestions and
> >> approach.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > We may need to iron out
> >> details
> >> > > > about
> >> > > > > > > exact
> >> > > > > > > >>> > paths
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > etc.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Which can be done on jira
> /
> >> PR
> >> > > > > > comments.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Is that right @dev?
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 7:53
> pm
> >> > > Pradeep
> >> > > > > A.
> >> > > > > > > >>> Dalvi <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > apache@pradeepdalvi.com>
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Inline comments...
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at
> >> 2:51
> >> > > PM,
> >> > > > > > > Chinmay
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > Kolhatkar <
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > chinmay@datatorrent.com
> >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Thomas, Not all the
> jar
> >> > > > present
> >> > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > DT
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> community
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > edition
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > included
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Here is the list of
> >> jars I
> >> > > > found
> >> > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > common
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dependencies
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> between
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > apex
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > and DT Community
> >> edition:
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netlet-1.2.0.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > kryo-2.24.0.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-core-0.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-codec-1.10.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jline-2.11.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> jackson-jaxrs-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-xc-1.9.2.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Ofcourse, I'll be
> >> running
> >> > > some
> >> > > > > > tests
> >> > > > > > > do
> >> > > > > > > >>> > check
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > that
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > properly
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > launch+shutdown+kill
> of
> >> > apps
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > > > > only
> >> > > > > > > >>> > these
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> libraries
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> present in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > isolation
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > without dependency on
> >> local
> >> > > m2.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > I'm believe that there
> >> are
> >> > > > > unwanted
> >> > > > > > > >>> jars
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > are
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > compile
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > time
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dependency and not
> >> runtime
> >> > in
> >> > > > > above
> >> > > > > > > >>> list
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> which I
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > can
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > drop
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> keep
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > package
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > size minimal.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Anniruddha,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. dt-env.sh -> I'm
> not
> >> > sure
> >> > > if
> >> > > > > all
> >> > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> required.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Only
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > required values I see
> >> in it
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > > >>> classpath.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> dtcli is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> capable
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > of
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > building
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > it on the fly.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 2. dt-site.xml -> Yes,
> >> > we'll
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> see
> >> > > > > > > >>> > how
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> can
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > find
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > jar
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > path,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh and all such
> >> conf
> >> > > > > files.
> >> > > > > > If
> >> > > > > > > >>> we
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> need a
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> change
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > then
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > community's opinion is
> >> > > required
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> whether
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > should
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > our
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > repo
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > or a copy of that with
> >> > > required
> >> > > > > > > changes
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> exist in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> bigtop
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> repo
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > until
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > we
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > make
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > the dtcli generic
> >> enough.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Can we have these file
> >> paths
> >> > > set
> >> > > > > > using
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> environment
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > variables
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > some
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > default values in dtcli?
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Then we can set such
> >> params
> >> > in
> >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 3. dt-sited.xml -> How
> >> is
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > file
> >> > > > > > > >>> > different
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-site.xml?
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > sure
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > if
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > adding in /etc/skel
> >> would
> >> > > help.
> >> > > > > > > Files &
> >> > > > > > > >>> > Dirs
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > from
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > /etc/skel
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > copied
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > home of new user when
> >> > useradd
> >> > > > > > program
> >> > > > > > > >>> is
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> called.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > But
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> existing
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > users
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > this won't be of any
> >> use.
> >> > > > > Moreover,
> >> > > > > > > >>> dtcli
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > creates
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > ~/.dt/
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > on
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > fly
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > if
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > encountered for the
> >> first
> >> > > time.
> >> > > > > > Again
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> correct me
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > if
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> I'm
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrong.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Yes, you are right.
> >> However
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> probably be
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > necessary
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> step
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > for
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > rpm/deb, as they may
> also
> >> get
> >> > > > > > installed
> >> > > > > > > >>> > during
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> OS
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> install
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > before
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > user
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > accounts were created.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 4. Changing bashrc &
> >> > > > bash_profile
> >> > > > > > ->
> >> > > > > > > >>> I'm
> >> > > > > > > >>> > not
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > sure
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> its
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> best
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > idea.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > We'll
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > anyway put dtcli in
> >> > location
> >> > > > > which
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > > >>> by
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> default
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > present
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> path
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > i.e.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > /usr/bin.
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > For other env variables
> >> > > specific
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > > apex,
> >> > > > > > > >>> > I'll
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > prefer
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > use
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > dt-env.sh
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > source it in dtcli
> >> rather
> >> > > than
> >> > > > > > > changing
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> bashrc
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> etc...
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Instead, coping
> dt-env.sh
> >> to
> >> > > > > > > >>> /etc/profile.d/
> >> > > > > > > >>> > >> shall
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