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From Chinmay Kolhatkar <chin...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Apache Apex as component in Apache bigtop
Date Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:14:24 GMT
No worries David. I've updated the manpage.

Just an update: apex bigtop packaging for rpm+deb is done. Here is the
branch on which I'm working if someone wants to look at:
https://github.com/chinmaykolhatkar/bigtop/blob/BIGTOP-2314

Only the 3rd questions below is the question that is left to be answered.
Once this is resolved, I'll create the pull request in bigtop.

Following questions are related to licenses and inclusion of certain files
in apex rpm+deb:
1. I'll be included LICENSE, DISCLAIMER, NOTICE from top folder of core
repo in our rpm and deb package. Those will be present in standard location
i.e. /usr/lib/apex/
Please let me know otherwise.

2. Most of our runtime dependencies has ASF license, but certain libraries
has MIT and BSD licenses, hence I've included those licenses too in rpm &
deb package in same location as above.
Please let me know otherwise.

BSD - jline-2.11.jar, kryo-2.24.0.jar, minlog-1.2.jar
MIT - mbassador-1.1.9.jar

3. There are 2 jars (jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar, jersey-client-1.9.jar)
which has duel license of CDDL + GPLv2 with classpath exception:
https://jersey.java.net/license.html
I'm not an expert here. Hence can someone let me know whether these
libraries is OK to be packaged in rpm+deb of apex?

If yes, should we also include that license in our package?

Thanks,
Chinmay.



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:35 PM, David Yan <david@datatorrent.com> wrote:

> I should've mentioned that I had a pull request that was merged yesterday
> that corrected the statement:
>
> https://github.com/DataTorrent/docs/pull/45
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Tushar Gosavi <tushar@datatorrent.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In following statement, can you replace dtGateway with ApplicationMaster
> > and Yarn. or may be remove this statement entirely.
> > apex is a wrapper around the REST API provided by dtGatway,
> >
> > - Tushar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <chinmay@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've attached man page for apex in Jira. Here is the link to it:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12788403/apex.1
> > >
> > > Please view it by: man -l apex.1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chinmay.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Tushar Gosavi <
> tushar@datatorrent.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Chinmay,
> > > >
> > > > I am not able to find the attachment, may be attachments are not
> > allowed
> > > in
> > > > the mailing list. Can you attach the man page to the Jira?
> > > >
> > > > - Tushar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> chinmay@apache.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've attached man page file for the purpose of bigtop integration.
> > > > > Please have a look and let me know if there any any feedback about
> > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see the man page content of this file with:
> > > > > man -l apex.1
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > chinmay@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks. Will follow bigtop recommendation. i.e. remove
> > "-incubating".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Thomas Weise <
> > thomas@datatorrent.com
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Please follow the recommendation and continue discussion on the
> > > Bigtop
> > > > >>> list.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> sent from mobile
> > > > >>> On Feb 16, 2016 8:17 AM, "Chinmay Kolhatkar" <chinmay@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > I got a recommendation from bigtop community to drop
> > "-incubating"
> > > > from
> > > > >>> > version.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Here is the mail thread:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/bigtop-dev/201602.mbox/%3C20160216154548.GA4472%40tpx%3E
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Please let me know if removing "-incubating" is fine.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:06 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > chinmay@apache.org
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > > I've already started communication there.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Thomas Weise <
> > > > >>> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >> This is a question you should ask on the Bigtop mailing
> list.
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> --
> > > > >>> > >> sent from mobile
> > > > >>> > >> On Feb 16, 2016 5:25 AM, "Pradeep A. Dalvi" <
> prad@apache.org>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > Yes. In case of RPM, the only restriction on version is
> that
> > > it
> > > > >>> can
> > > > >>> > not
> > > > >>> > >> > contain '-'.
> > > > >>> > >> > However, as a workaround, one can use 'incubating' as a
> part
> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> %{release}.
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > Version: 3.3.0
> > > > >>> > >> > Release: incubating
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > apex-3.3.0-incubating.noarch.rpm
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > It is the same practice followed for pre-release packages
> > e.g.
> > > > >>> with
> > > > >>> > rcX,
> > > > >>> > >> > alphaX, betaX being used in %{release}.
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > Regards,
> > > > >>> > >> > Pradeep A. Dalvi
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > chinmay@apache.org>
> > > > >>> > >> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > In one of the previous mails in this thread, we decided
> > that
> > > > >>> version
> > > > >>> > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > package will be "3.3.0-incubating".
> > > > >>> > >> > > The problem that I'm facing is in RPM base version "-"
> is
> > > not
> > > > >>> > allowed.
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > Can we have package version to "3.3.0"?
> > > > >>> > >> > > i.e. the packages created will be as follows:
> > > > >>> > >> > > For RPM: apex-3.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > > > >>> > >> > > For DEB: apex_3.3.0-1_all.deb
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > There is another integration for Zepplin in Bigtop which
> > is
> > > > >>> > incubating
> > > > >>> > >> > and
> > > > >>> > >> > > is having base version as "0.5.6".
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > Please let me know your thoughts.
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chinmay Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > >> chinmay@apache.org>
> > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks everyone for the feedback.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > > Also as Ram and David mentioned, I'll start creating
> the
> > > man
> > > > >>> page
> > > > >>> > as
> > > > >>> > >> > > well.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Thomas Weise <
> > > > >>> > >> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> I think we already agreed that we will retain the
> > current
> > > > >>> script
> > > > >>> > >> name
> > > > >>> > >> > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> this bigtop iteration. There is a ticket for
> renaming,
> > > add
> > > > >>> you
> > > > >>> > >> > > suggestions
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> there.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> --
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> sent from mobile
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> On Feb 15, 2016 4:56 PM, "Sandesh Hegde" <
> > > > >>> > sandesh@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > +1 for Symlink from apex to dtcli or start the
> > > transition
> > > > >>> > >> process by
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> making
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli as the symlink to apex cli.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Renaming is a breaking change should be done during
> > > major
> > > > >>> > version
> > > > >>> > >> > > number
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > change.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 AM David Yan <
> > > > >>> > david@datatorrent.com
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Apologies for hitting the "Send" button too
> early.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > What is the scope of the name change?  If we
> simply
> > > > have
> > > > >>> a
> > > > >>> > >> symlink
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no backward
> > > > >>> compatibility
> > > > >>> > >> > problem
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> at
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But the proper name change would involve:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the name of DTCli class to ApexCli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > - Change the initial greeting when running the
> CLI
> > > from
> > > > >>> > >> something
> > > > >>> > >> > > like
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > "DT
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI ...".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > The above changes may break existing scripts that
> > > rely
> > > > >>> on the
> > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> string
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > But if folks are okay with this potential
> problem,
> > I
> > > am
> > > > >>> okay
> > > > >>> > >> with
> > > > >>> > >> > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > name
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > change.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For the man page, we can start with the content
> of
> > > this
> > > > >>> page:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > http://docs.datatorrent.com/dtcli/
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Plus the command line options when doing dtcli
> -h:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > usage: DTCli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -e <arg>    Commands are read from the argument
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -f <arg>    Use the specified prompt at all time
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -h          Print this help
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kp <arg>   Use the specified kerberos principal
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -kt <arg>   Use the specified kerberos keytab
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -p <arg>    JSONP padding function
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -r          JSON Raw mode
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -v          Verbose mode level 1
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vv         Verbose mode level 2
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvv        Verbose mode level 3
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >  -vvvv       Verbose mode level 4
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > David
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:56 AM, David Yan <
> > > > >>> > >> david@datatorrent.com
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > What is the scope of the name change?  If we
> > simply
> > > > >>> have a
> > > > >>> > >> > symlink
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> from
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > apex to dtcli, then it should have no backward
> > > > >>> > compatibility
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> problem at
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > all.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But the proper name change would involve:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the name of DTCli class to ApexCli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the prompt from dt> to apex>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > - Change the initial greeting when running the
> > CLI
> > > > from
> > > > >>> > >> > something
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> like
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > "DT
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > CLI 3.3.0-incubating ..." to "Apex CLI ...".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > The above changes may break existing scripts
> that
> > > > rely
> > > > >>> on
> > > > >>> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > string
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > "DT".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > But if folks are okay with this potential
> > problem,
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > >>> > okay
> > > > >>> > >> > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > name
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > change.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > For the man page, we can start with the content
> > of
> > > > this
> > > > >>> > page:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Chinmay
> > Kolhatkar
> > > <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> chinmay@apache.org
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Here is a suggestion I have related to name
> > > change:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 1. While packaging we change the name of
> "dtcli"
> > > > >>> script to
> > > > >>> > >> > > "apex".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> done so that in future when we change the name
> > to
> > > > >>> "apex",
> > > > >>> > >> users
> > > > >>> > >> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> apex don't have to transition much.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 2. We also keep a symlink named dtcli which
> > points
> > > > to
> > > > >>> apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > script.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > This
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for backward compatibility.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 3. We still keep conf/dt-env.sh for first
> > > > integration
> > > > >>> in
> > > > >>> > >> > bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> This
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> the interest of not changing the content of
> > dtcli
> > > or
> > > > >>> apex
> > > > >>> > >> > script.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> 4. In apex 3.4.0, we take care of all these
> > naming
> > > > >>> related
> > > > >>> > >> > > changes
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> update bigtop repository later to remove
> > > references
> > > > to
> > > > >>> > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > all
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > together.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on above approach.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Also, please share what could be the man page
> > > > content
> > > > >>> for
> > > > >>> > >> > "apex".
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Chinmay
> > > Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > chinmay@apache.org>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes.. It'll be build from source tar
> > downloaded
> > > > >>> from one
> > > > >>> > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apache
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > mirror: apache.osuosl.org
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > The reason for dt-env.sh is it's sourced
> from
> > > > dtcli.
> > > > >>> > This
> > > > >>> > >> > > leaves
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> us
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > 3
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > options:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > If we should not have any dt-env.sh, dtcli
> > would
> > > > >>> need a
> > > > >>> > >> > change
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> while
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > packaging.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > But if we want to use dtcli as it is, then
> we
> > > > would
> > > > >>> need
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Thomas
> Weise
> > <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > thomas@datatorrent.com
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Looks good overall, though there shouldn't
> be
> > > any
> > > > >>> > >> dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> What will the bigtop package be built from,
> > the
> > > > >>> source
> > > > >>> > >> tar?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Chinmay
> > > > Kolhatkar
> > > > >>> <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > chinmay@apache.org
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Hi Thomas,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the feedback.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > First, we're not changing the name
> > anywhere.
> > > > >>> We'll
> > > > >>> > >> follow
> > > > >>> > >> > > what
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> currently is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in source tarball for 3.3.0-incubating
> > > version.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Secondly, I've mentioned a directory
> > > structure
> > > > >>> below
> > > > >>> > >> which
> > > > >>> > >> > > is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > inline
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > other existing integrations with bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The need for each file is as follows:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 1. bin/dtcli -> CLI for apex picked from
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> engine/src/main/scripts/
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> source
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > code apex 3.3.0-incubating.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 2. conf/dt-env.sh -> This is source from
> > > dtcli.
> > > > >>> This
> > > > >>> > >> > > searches
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> hadoop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > binary path and exports an env variable
> for
> > > > >>> dtcli to
> > > > >>> > >> use
> > > > >>> > >> > it.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3. lib/ -> Libraries for CLI. This list
> is
> > > > >>> extracted
> > > > >>> > >> in a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> similar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> way to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > how DT Community Edition finds dependency
> > > jars.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please note that this is the first
> > iteration
> > > > >>> list of
> > > > >>> > >> jars.
> > > > >>> > >> > > I'm
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> trying to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > narrow this down to only those which are
> > > really
> > > > >>> > >> required.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > The test that I'm running to check if
> dtcli
> > > > runs
> > > > >>> fine
> > > > >>> > >> with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> given
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dependency
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > is to launch+shutdown+kill+status for pi
> > > demo.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Above is the directory structure which is
> > > > >>> required
> > > > >>> > for
> > > > >>> > >> CLI
> > > > >>> > >> > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > work.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > What aniruddha and pradeep has mentioned
> > are
> > > > some
> > > > >>> > >> > additional
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > files
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > makes the like of administrator easier.
> For
> > > eg.
> > > > >>> > >> /etc/skel
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Please let me know if this is inline with
> > > what
> > > > >>> you're
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> thinking.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > .
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- bin
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |-- conf
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > |   `-- dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > `-- lib
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-api-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > > apex-bufferserver-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-common-3.3.0-incubating.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- apex-engine-tests.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-core-0.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- commons-logging-1.1.3.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- grizzly-http-servlet-2.1.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- httpcore-4.3.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- javax.servlet-3.1.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- javax.servlet-api-3.0.1.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jersey-client-1.9.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jetty-http-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jetty-io-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jetty-util-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |--
> > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- jline-2.11.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- minlog-1.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- objenesis-2.1.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     |-- xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >     `-- zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > 3 directories, 40 files
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Thomas
> > > Weise <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> thomas@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Chinmay,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Before discussing where to put the
> files,
> > > > let's
> > > > >>> > make
> > > > >>> > >> > sure
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> they
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> really
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > needed for the operation of the CLI. As
> > for
> > > > >>> names,
> > > > >>> > >> > > anything
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> needs
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > reflect Apex in the name and should
> > follow
> > > > >>> common
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> conventions,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> especially
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in Bigtop where there are many existing
> > > > >>> > integrations
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > look
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > at.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Thomas
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:07 AM,
> Chinmay
> > > > >>> Kolhatkar
> > > > >>> > <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > chinmay@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Really good points Pradeep and
> > Aniruddha.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 1. I believe we won't need to change
> > the
> > > > >>> dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> considering it
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > DT
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Community edition. We can keep the
> > > > directory
> > > > >>> > >> structure
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > similar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dt-env.sh has variables which
> contains
> > > > >>> > information
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> required
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > launch.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2. Let me check with bigtop community
> > > that
> > > > >>> > whether
> > > > >>> > >> > they
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> facilitate
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > installation of rpms/debs before user
> > is
> > > > >>> created.
> > > > >>> > >> In
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> either
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > case,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > current
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > dtcli creates a .dt folder in home
> > > > directory.
> > > > >>> > Also
> > > > >>> > >> > > before
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > putting
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > anything
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in /etc/skel we need to define what
> are
> > > the
> > > > >>> > default
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> contents
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > that
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > should
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > go
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to ~/.dt/ folder. If there is no
> > > defaults,
> > > > >>> > >> probably we
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> should
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > not
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > explicitly add it in /etc/skel.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 3.  /etc/profile.d approach looks
> nice.
> > > > This
> > > > >>> way
> > > > >>> > >> > > contents
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > present as env variables. But I see a
> > > catch
> > > > >>> > there.
> > > > >>> > >> > > Adding
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > /etc/profile.d would make all the
> > > variables
> > > > >>> > >> available
> > > > >>> > >> > at
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > runtime
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > time. I feel a little skeptical about
> > > that.
> > > > >>> > Maybe a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> possible
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> collision
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > can
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > occur with other application vars.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Moreover, current dtcli does source
> > > > >>> > >> > "../conf/dt-env.sh"
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > "~/.dt/dt-env.sh". So those variables
> > are
> > > > >>> anyway
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> available.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > @Aniruddha, the Jira and PR effort is
> > > > >>> happening
> > > > >>> > at
> > > > >>> > >> > > Bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Jira/repository.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Packaging related code usually goes
> > > there.
> > > > >>> > (That's
> > > > >>> > >> > what
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> all
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > components
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in bigtop does).
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Having said that, once a PR is
> created,
> > > > I'll
> > > > >>> be
> > > > >>> > >> > sharing
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > link
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> PR
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > here, so that apex community as well
> > can
> > > > >>> review
> > > > >>> > it.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:57 PM,
> > > Aniruddha
> > > > >>> > >> Thombare <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > aniruddha@datatorrent.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > +1 on suggestions and approach.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > We may need to iron out details
> about
> > > > exact
> > > > >>> > paths
> > > > >>> > >> > etc.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Which can be done on jira / PR
> > > comments.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Is that right @dev?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 7:53 pm Pradeep
> > A.
> > > > >>> Dalvi <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > apache@pradeepdalvi.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Inline comments...
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:51 PM,
> > > > Chinmay
> > > > >>> > >> > Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > chinmay@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Thomas, Not all the jar
> present
> > in
> > > > DT
> > > > >>> > >> community
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > edition
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > included
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Here is the list of jars I
> found
> > > from
> > > > >>> > common
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dependencies
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> between
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > and DT Community edition:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netlet-1.2.0.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > kryo-2.24.0.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-core-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-mapper-asl-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > async-http-client-1.7.20.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > netty-3.6.6.Final.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > validation-api-1.1.0.Final.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-jsr303-0.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > bval-core-0.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-lang3-3.1.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-beanutils-1.8.3.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > httpclient-4.3.5.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > commons-codec-1.10.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > zip4j-1.3.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > jetty-websocket-8.1.10.v20130312.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > xbean-asm5-shaded-4.3.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jersey-apache-client4-1.9.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jline-2.11.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ant-launcher-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > mbassador-1.1.9.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-jaxrs-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > jackson-xc-1.9.2.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > hadoop-common-2.2.0-tests.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Ofcourse, I'll be running some
> > > tests
> > > > do
> > > > >>> > check
> > > > >>> > >> > that
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> works
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > properly
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > launch+shutdown+kill of apps
> with
> > > > only
> > > > >>> > these
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> libraries
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> present in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > isolation
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > without dependency on local m2.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > I'm believe that there are
> > unwanted
> > > > >>> jars
> > > > >>> > >> which
> > > > >>> > >> > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > compile
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > time
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dependency and not runtime in
> > above
> > > > >>> list
> > > > >>> > >> which I
> > > > >>> > >> > > can
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > drop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> keep
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > package
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > size minimal.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > @Anniruddha,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 1. dt-env.sh -> I'm not sure if
> > all
> > > > of
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> dt-env.sh is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> required.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > Only
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > required values I see in it are
> > > > >>> classpath.
> > > > >>> > >> and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> dtcli is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> capable
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > building
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > it on the fly.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 2. dt-site.xml -> Yes, we'll
> have
> > > to
> > > > >>> see
> > > > >>> > how
> > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> can
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > find
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > path,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > dt-env.sh and all such conf
> > files.
> > > If
> > > > >>> we
> > > > >>> > >> need a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> change
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dtcli,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > then
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > community's opinion is required
> > for
> > > > >>> whether
> > > > >>> > >> > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > should
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > our
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > repo
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > or a copy of that with required
> > > > changes
> > > > >>> > >> exist in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> repo
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > until
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > we
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > make
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > the dtcli generic enough.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Can we have these file paths set
> > > using
> > > > >>> > >> environment
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > variables
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > some
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > default values in dtcli?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Then we can set such params in
> > > > dt-env.sh.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 3. dt-sited.xml -> How is this
> > file
> > > > >>> > different
> > > > >>> > >> > from
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> dt-site.xml?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Not
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > sure
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > adding in /etc/skel would help.
> > > > Files &
> > > > >>> > Dirs
> > > > >>> > >> > from
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > /etc/skel
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > copied
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > home of new user when useradd
> > > program
> > > > >>> is
> > > > >>> > >> called.
> > > > >>> > >> > > But
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> existing
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > users
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > this won't be of any use.
> > Moreover,
> > > > >>> dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > creates
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > ~/.dt/
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > on
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > fly
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > not
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > encountered for the first time.
> > > Again
> > > > >>> > >> correct me
> > > > >>> > >> > > if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> I'm
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> wrong.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Yes, you are right. However this
> > > would
> > > > >>> > >> probably be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > necessary
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> step
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > rpm/deb, as they may also get
> > > installed
> > > > >>> > during
> > > > >>> > >> OS
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> install
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > before
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > user
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > accounts were created.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > 4. Changing bashrc &
> bash_profile
> > > ->
> > > > >>> I'm
> > > > >>> > not
> > > > >>> > >> > sure
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> its
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> best
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > idea.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > We'll
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > anyway put dtcli in location
> > which
> > > is
> > > > >>> by
> > > > >>> > >> default
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > present
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> path
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > i.e.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > /usr/bin.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > For other env variables specific
> to
> > > > apex,
> > > > >>> > I'll
> > > > >>> > >> > > prefer
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > use
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > dt-env.sh
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > source it in dtcli rather than
> > > > changing
> > > > >>> > >> bashrc
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> etc...
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Instead, coping dt-env.sh to
> > > > >>> /etc/profile.d/
> > > > >>> > >> shall
> > > > >>> > >> > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> cleaner
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > way
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > achieve the same.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:07
> PM,
> > > > >>> Aniruddha
> > > > >>> > >> > > Thombare
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > aniruddha@datatorrent.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @Chinmay,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > We need to consider
> following:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > System wide default config
> > files
> > > > can
> > > > >>> be
> > > > >>> > >> > located
> > > > >>> > >> > > at
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> following
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > locations:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-env.sh  (we may
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > >>> > change
> > > > >>> > >> > > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> behaviour
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> on
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > how
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > it
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > finds
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > those locations)
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > /etc/apex/dt-site.xml (we may
> > > have
> > > > to
> > > > >>> > >> change
> > > > >>> > >> > > dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> behaviour on
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > how
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > it
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > finds those locations)
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > /etc/skel/.dt/dt-sited.xml
> and
> > > > other
> > > > >>> > files
> > > > >>> > >> > (for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> new
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > users
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> that
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > will
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > created in system in future.)
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > We may also have to modify
> > > bashrc /
> > > > >>> > >> > bashprofile
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> population
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > any
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > variables that are required.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @dev, please put in your
> > > comments /
> > > > >>> > >> > suggestion.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Aniruddha
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:16
> > AM,
> > > > >>> Thomas
> > > > >>> > >> Weise
> > > > >>> > >> > <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > thomas@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > -->
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 9:05
> > AM,
> > > > >>> Chinmay
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > chinmay@datatorrent.com
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone!!
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Continuing with packaging
> > > > effort
> > > > >>> > >> (rpm+deb)
> > > > >>> > >> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > apex,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> here
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > some
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > proposals
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > about package structure
> > etc..
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Before posting it on
> > bbigtop
> > > > >>> mailing
> > > > >>> > >> > list, I
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> have
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> some
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > question
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > community.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Proposed Directory
> > structure
> > > of
> > > > >>> apex
> > > > >>> > >> > package
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > both
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> deb &
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > rpm:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-api-<version>.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-engine-<version>.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-bufferserver-<version>.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > /usr/lib/apex/lib/apex-common-<version>.jar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/apex/lib/<other
> > > > >>> dependent
> > > > >>> > >> jars>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > /usr/bin/dtcli ->
> > > > >>> > /usr/lib/apex/bin/dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> /usr/share/doc/man/man1/dtcli.1.gz
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > /usr/share/doc/apex/license/LICENSE.txt
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> /usr/share/doc/apex/license/<package>-LICENSE.txt
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > /usr/share/doc/apex/CHANGELOG
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> /usr/share/doc/apex/NOTICE
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <version> =
> > 3.3.0-incubating.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <other dependent jars> =
> > All
> > > > the
> > > > >>> 3rd
> > > > >>> > >> party
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> jars
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > required
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > to run. Usually the
> > > > dependencies
> > > > >>> are
> > > > >>> > >> > > packaged
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> as
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> part of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > rpm/deb
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > by
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > any
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > software in bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Can you specify what those
> > jars
> > > > >>> are in
> > > > >>> > >> > Bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > context?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Same
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > as
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > shipped
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > DT community addition under
> > > lib/
> > > > ?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <package LICENSE> =
> > Licenses
> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > corresponding
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > 3rd
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> party
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > jars
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > needs
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > to included while
> > packaging.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Questions related to
> this:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Should we call the cli
> > of
> > > > >>> apex as
> > > > >>> > >> > "apex"
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > instead
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > "dtcli"
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > package?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > I think we should keep the
> > name
> > > > >>> until
> > > > >>> > we
> > > > >>> > >> are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> able
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> change
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > it
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Apex.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Otherwise this may get
> > > confusing.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 2. I see that all
> softwares
> > > in
> > > > >>> bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> have
> > > > >>> > >> > > man
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > page
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > their
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > executables.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > I think we should have it
> > too
> > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> dtcli.
> > > > >>> > >> > Is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> there
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > any
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > documentation
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > which I
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > can convert to man page?
> or
> > > can
> > > > >>> I use
> > > > >>> > >> > output
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> "dtcli
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > --help"?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 3. Do we want to call
> > version
> > > > of
> > > > >>> apex
> > > > >>> > >> in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> Bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > as
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> 3.3.0 OR
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 3.3.0-incubating?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Has to be -incubating
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 4. Is it ok for apex
> > package
> > > of
> > > > >>> > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> depend
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > on
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> 2.7.1
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > version
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop hadoop? Any
> problems
> > > > that
> > > > >>> we
> > > > >>> > see
> > > > >>> > >> > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> this
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > dependency?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Should work without
> changed.
> > I
> > > > >>> thought
> > > > >>> > we
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> certified
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> against
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > 2.7.0?
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > 5. Following is the
> apache
> > > > mirror
> > > > >>> > from
> > > > >>> > >> > which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> will
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > pick
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > source for compilation
> and
> > > > >>> packaging.
> > > > >>> > >> > Please
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > correct
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > incorrect:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > http://apache.osuosl.org/incubator/apex/v3.3.0-incubating/
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >     NOTE:
> > apache.osuosl.org
> > > is
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> > >> mirror
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> used
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > by
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> all
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > softwares
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Please share your
> opinion.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at
> > 11:19
> > > > AM,
> > > > >>> > >> Chinmay
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Kolhatkar
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > chinmay@datatorrent.com>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Yes.. Starting to work
> on
> > > the
> > > > >>> > >> packaging.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > I've already started
> > > > >>> discussion on
> > > > >>> > >> > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> dev
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> mailing
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > list
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > integration. Also
> > created a
> > > > >>> Jira
> > > > >>> > for
> > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> same.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > For
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> this
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > communities
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > reference, here is the
> > > bigtop
> > > > >>> Jira:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > BIGTOP-2313.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at
> > 1:13
> > > > AM,
> > > > >>> > >> Thomas
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> Weise <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > thomas@datatorrent.com
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Chinmay,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> I don't see anything
> > under
> > > > >>> > >> > prerequisites
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> that
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> would
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> be a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > problem.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > We
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> looked
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> at the ASF licencing
> > > > >>> compatibility
> > > > >>> > >> as
> > > > >>> > >> > > part
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> becoming
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > an
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > incubator
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> project.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Please focus on the
> > > > packaging
> > > > >>> > during
> > > > >>> > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> next
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> weeks.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > Since
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > work
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > will
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> part of Bigtop,
> related
> > > > >>> > discussions
> > > > >>> > >> and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> JIRAs
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> should
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > also
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > there.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Would be good to have
> > the
> > > > >>> > packaging
> > > > >>> > >> in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> place
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > by
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> end
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> Feb.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Thomas
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at
> > > 10:14
> > > > >>> AM,
> > > > >>> > >> > Chinmay
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> Kolhatkar <
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> chinmay@datatorrent.com
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi All,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We're planning a
> work
> > on
> > > > >>> adding
> > > > >>> > >> > Apache
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> Apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > as a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > component
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Bigtop is the
> > packaging
> > > > >>> system
> > > > >>> > for
> > > > >>> > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > Apache
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> big
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> data
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > ecosystem.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> Several
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Hadoop distros use
> it,
> > > > most
> > > > >>> > >> recently
> > > > >>> > >> > > EMR.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Here is the tracking
> > > Jira
> > > > >>> task
> > > > >>> > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> APEXCORE
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > same:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-331
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Proposed plan of
> > > execution
> > > > >>> is as
> > > > >>> > >> > > follows:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > *Step 1) Handle
> > > > >>> prerequisites*
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Apache bigtop has
> some
> > > > hard
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>> > >> soft
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > expectation
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > new
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > components
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> get
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > integrated into
> > Bigtop.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Here is the list of
> > it:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >>
> > > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > >>> > >> >
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/Requirement+for+adding+a+new+component+to+Bigtop+distribution
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Most of them seems
> to
> > be
> > > > >>> > standard
> > > > >>> > >> ASF
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> based
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > requirements,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > but
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > few
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > need
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > be checked for:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 1. Software projects
> > are
> > > > >>> > expected
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > Licensed
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> under
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > Apache
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > License,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Version 2.0 (and
> their
> > > > >>> > >> dependencies
> > > > >>> > >> > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > expected
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > compatible
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> this
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > license)
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Apex is under
> > ASL
> > > > 2.0
> > > > >>> but
> > > > >>> > >> need
> > > > >>> > >> > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > check
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > dependencies
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > Apex
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > compatible with ASL
> > 2.0.
> > > > >>> This I
> > > > >>> > >> guess
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> would
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > be a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > verification
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > check.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 2. Software projects
> > are
> > > > >>> > expected
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> compatible
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > all
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > supported platforms
> > that
> > > > >>> Bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> distribution
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > targeting
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - This needs
> > > verifying
> > > > >>> > whether
> > > > >>> > >> > our
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > software
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> runs
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > fine
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > centos-6
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > centos-7 fedora-20
> > > > >>> ubuntu-14.04
> > > > >>> > >> > > debian-8
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > opensuse-13.2.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 3. What smoke tests
> > that
> > > > >>> should
> > > > >>> > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > added
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > deployment.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 4. Identifying the
> > test
> > > > >>> > artifacts
> > > > >>> > >> > which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> goes
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> beyond
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > smoke
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > test
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - These are
> > > basically
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > integration
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > tests
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> for
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > verification
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > deployment. This is
> a
> > > soft
> > > > >>> > >> > requirement,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> but
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > aim
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > achieve
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > this
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> well
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > or at least have
> > > > >>> explanation why
> > > > >>> > >> not
> > > > >>> > >> > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > include.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > If there are any
> from
> > > the
> > > > >>> link
> > > > >>> > >> which
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > explicitly
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> needs
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > checked
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> other
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > than above 4, please
> > let
> > > > us
> > > > >>> > know.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > *Step 2) Adding Apex
> > as
> > > > >>> > component
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> Bigtop*
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > From one of the mail
> > > > >>> archive of
> > > > >>> > >> > Bigtop,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> it
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > was
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> learnt
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > that
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > community want to
> see
> > > the
> > > > >>> > >> addition of
> > > > >>> > >> > > new
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> components
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > phases.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Here
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > the phases:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 1. Packaging
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - This needs
> > > creating
> > > > of
> > > > >>> > >> package
> > > > >>> > >> > > i.e.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > rpm
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > &
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> deb
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > files.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     -
> > > > >>> documentations/READMEs,
> > > > >>> > >> > LICENSE,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> DISCLAMER,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > NOTES
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > etc
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > if
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > any
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> needed.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Any
> > documentation
> > > > that
> > > > >>> > need
> > > > >>> > >> to
> > > > >>> > >> > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > added
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > distribution
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > our
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > software.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Any license
> > > > >>> information of
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > dependencies
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> required
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > be
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> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > package
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 2. Smoke tests (at
> > very
> > > > >>> least)
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Adding smoke
> > test
> > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > packaging.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 3. Puppet recipes
> for
> > > > >>> automatic
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> deployment
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > and
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > configuration
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - Add puppet
> > recipes
> > > > for
> > > > >>> > >> > automatic
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> deployment
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 4. Integration tests
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     - For
> verification
> > > of
> > > > >>> > >> > deployments.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > 5. license
> clearance:
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >     Run 'gradle rat'
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > >>> > sure
> > > > >>> > >> all
> > > > >>> > >> > > new
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > stuff
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> is
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > compliant
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > with
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > ASF
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > license
> requirements.
> > If
> > > > >>> you add
> > > > >>> > >> code
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > licenses
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> under
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > different
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > licenses,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > those would need to
> be
> > > > >>> listed in
> > > > >>> > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> NOTICE.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Please share your
> > > thoughts
> > > > >>> on
> > > > >>> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> approach.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We'll start
> > > corresponding
> > > > >>> > >> > communication
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> on
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> bigtop
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > mailing
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > list
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > as
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > well.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > We have some
> specific
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> questions/suggestions
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> related to
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > what
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > should
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > content of the
> package
> > > and
> > > > >>> what
> > > > >>> > >> > should
> > > > >>> > >> > > be
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> smoke
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > tests,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > but
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > in
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > interest of not
> having
> > > too
> > > > >>> much
> > > > >>> > >> > content
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > here,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> we'll
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > put
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > the
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > questions
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> as a
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > separate mail in
> this
> > > > >>> > mailthread.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > Chinmay.
> > > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >
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