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From Pramod Immaneni <pra...@datatorrent.com>
Subject Re: Apex ASF JIRA Migration
Date Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:21:37 GMT
I would like to add +1 for 3.


> On Sep 9, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Chris Nauroth <cnauroth@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> Hello Apex devs,
> I'd like to share some new information about the ASF JIRA migration,
> tracked in issue INFRA-10145.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-10145
> First, I'd like to take this opportunity to make sure the whole Apex
> community knows that there are multiple means of contacting the Apache
> infrastructure engineers.  This is documented here.
> http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact
> My experience has always been that the infrastructure team is responsive,
> helpful and friendly.  Please feel free to contact them if necessary.  I
> typically start by filing an INFRA issue in JIRA, and then follow up in
> the HipChat channel if there is no response in JIRA after a few days.
> I checked in at the HipChat channel today about our JIRA migration status.
> Gavin, who is handling INFRA-10145 for us, was not available, but the
> other infrastructure engineers pointed out a few challenges.  The version
> of JIRA in use hosted at Atlassian is different from the version currently
> running in Apache.  In order to do an import, the versions must match
> exactly, so our import actually would trigger an upgrade of ASF JIRA.
> This would require planned downtime with at least 72 hours notice.  After
> that, there would be some challenges with making sure imported data aligns
> with best practices used in ASF JIRA, such as using roles instead of
> groups.  Considering all of this, the infrastructure team's experience is
> that imports take a long time, even in the best case.
> The infrastructure team and I discussed a few options for moving ahead.
> 1. Do not migrate to ASF JIRA.  The infrastructure team noted that there
> is nothing in the incubation process that mandates moving off of your
> Atlassian hosted instance.  I had not been aware of this.
> 2. Move to ASF JIRA, but skip the import, and start with a clean slate.
> 3. Move to ASF JIRA now, but allow the import activity to continue in the
> background.  Once we start using ASF JIRA though, imported issues would
> not be able to land in the same project key.  They'd likely have to remain
> under the old project keys used at the Atlassian instance.
> 4. Keep waiting for the migration with the understanding that it will take
> time to complete.
> I'd like to gauge the Apex community's opinion on how to proceed.  My own
> opinion is that it would be beneficial to move to ASF JIRA, so I'd prefer
> to rule out option 1.  One of the benefits of Apex is its integration with
> numerous other Apache projects, and it can be useful to share the same
> JIRA instance with those other projects.  For example, if you trace the
> root cause of an Apex issue into HDFS, and you want to contact an HDFS
> engineer, you can ask me for feedback by entering @cnauroth on a comment.
> If you remain in the Atlassian instance, it's not guaranteed that
> contributors on other Apache projects will have an account there.  If the
> issue is confirmed as an HDFS bug, you can then link your Apex issue to
> the corresponding HDFS issue for easy navigation.  I don't believe this
> would work as cleanly in the Atlassian instance.
> My preference is option 2 for simplicity.  However, this has the side
> effect of discarding past history.  Does the Apex community consider the
> past history to be important?  Is it important enough to preserve the past
> history that you're willing to wait longer for a migration?
> Please let me know your thoughts.
> --Chris Nauroth

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