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Subject: AW: AW: AW: problem with ftp
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:54:00 +0100
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p.s.: Thanks Scot for your aid ;)

Jan

> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jan Mat=C3=A8rne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. November 2013 10:52
> An: 'Ant Users List'
> Betreff: AW: AW: AW: problem with ftp
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> If someone comes with a problem and points to place where he think the
> sticking point is, I usually want to make my own picture. Maybe I see
> the same problem, maybe not. But there is a reason why someone stops =
at
> a certain point. And often enough I had seen that the real problem is
> "some lines before" and he was doctoring just at the symptoms.
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> You asked for help from a Guru. I am using and writing Ant since
> 1.3/2000, so I would think I have some knowledge here. But I wouldn't
> call myself as a Guru (nobody should call himself so in my opinion).
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> After your first response I was really annoyed and started an
> "unpleasant" reply, but I stopped myself and focused on the problem.
> Your error message doesn't fit to the code I saw so asked for more
> input.
>=20
> But coming to an end: the problem is solved (because it was somewhere
> else) and I accept your apology, so we can work together in a better
> way in the future.
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>=20
> If you think you have found a bug or just a "strange behaviour" in
> <ftp>, you may open a Bugzilla request.
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>=20
> Jan
>=20
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: David Coleman [mailto:david_coleman_007@hotmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. November 2013 07:09
> > An: Ant Users List
> > Betreff: RE: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> >
> > I too thought it was darn condescending that he ignored my original
> > question entirely.
> >
> > I said:
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.  It appears to
> me
> > >>>>> that for some reason ANT is trying to parse replacements in =
the
> > >>>>> binary data of the file I'm trying to transfer.  I am not an
> ANT
> > >>>>> guru, but something here seems very very very wrong.
> >
> > I'm not usually one to respond as I did.  but I felt like he was =
very
> > condescending to ME.
> >
> > I only reach out for help when I'm SURE that it is something
> > extraordinary.
> >
> > In the end, I'm quite sure that there is a bug in the ftp task where
> > instead of reporting that the included file is invalid, it reads
> > binary garbage out of somewhere, and then if it happens to find a
> > ${*anything* in that data, tries to parse it.
> >
> > He totally ignored the relevant code and focused on lines of code
> > which were not even in question.  He sent 3 different emails all of
> > which were basically criticizing me for trying to share a more
> > complete picture than just pasting the <ftp> section.  and if I had
> > only pasted the <ftp> section I'm sure he would have wanted more
> information.
> >
> > Honestly, I'm sure he has helped many people.  But I think that just
> > because I'm new doesn't mean he can condescend me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:51:36 -0500
> > From: sfloess@nc.rr.com
> > To: user@ant.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I've been on this list a long time and know that Jan has helped a =
ton
> > of people.  Pretty darn cold and condescending to treat someone who =
-
> > was- trying to help.
> >
> > I use to post help often when I had the time...but haven't in days =
of
> > late.  I can tell you seeing someone come to this list seeking free
> > help and responding in such an ungrateful manor deserves to be
> ignored
> > in the future.  I'm thankful now I didn't have any free time to
> bother
> > looking into your problem.
> >
> > Perhaps some etiquette such as "thank you" but the problem was "fill
> > in the blank" would have been more appropriate?
> >
> >
> > Jan,
> >
> > Just sticking up for you here...this person doesn't deserve your
> > help...
> >
> >
> > Flossy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, David Coleman wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > thank you but I have found the issue.  Someone who actually read
> > > what
> > I posted and didn't focus on irrelevant matters pointed out that if
> my
> > target file was in the /deploy directory, then my include did not
> need
> > to include the "deploy" folder again.
> > >
> > > Thank you for worrying so much about optimizing my build but i
> > > assure
> > you, the answer was there for you to see if you had taken the time =
to
> > actually listen to me.
> > >
> > > Apparently for some reason ANT decided to read garbage out of
> > somewhere - memory/disk/somewhere - and then decided to parse it.
> > >
> > > It certainly should have thrown a different error, since NO
> > PROPERTIES were actually involved.  like i said.
> > >
> > > thank you again.  hopefully this will teach you to not dismiss
> > > people
> > so casually.
> > >
> > >> From: apache@materne.de
> > >> To: user@ant.apache.org
> > >> Subject: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> > >> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:47:48 +0100
> > >>
> > >>> and i specifically stated:
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.
> > >>
> > >> I could see that. But the error message "Syntax error in
> property:"
> > make me thought that something is wrong with properties.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> "checkAntCommons" and "checkJakartaOro" check for the libraries
> > that
> > >>> are required for the FTP task.  they are totally irrelevant.
> > >>
> > >> If they are totally irrelevant - have you tried to strip down =
your
> > build code?
> > >> Just remove the safety at the moment and delete all instructions
> > that are not required, e.g. availability checks of external libs,
> > additional settings in the ftp task ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I'm not going to provide our whole build xml file on an open
> forum.
> > >>> I provided the pieces that an experienced person will need to
> help
> > >>> me with this very strange issue.
> > >>
> > >> While I can understand that you wont to post the whole build =
file.
> > >> But you asked for help and dont want to provide further
> information
> > an "experienced person" may need?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I am running with -d.  it shows nothing, i get the debug output
> > >>> and then when it starts to send the file, it blows up =
complaining
> > >>> about a
> > >>> ${***GARBAGE*** property.
> > >>>
> > >>> trust me the ONLY call to the <ftp/> task is the code you see
> > below.
> > >>
> > >> Then again - strip your code to the absolute minimum.
> > >> In my own maintenance script of a homepage I use
> > >>
> > >> <ftp server=3D"ftp.myserver.org" userid=3D"user" =
password=3D"password"
> > remotedir=3D"my/remote/dir">
> > >>     <fileset dir=3D"source" excludes=3D"${excludes}"
> > includes=3D"${includes}">
> > >>         <modified/>
> > >>     </fileset>
> > >> </ftp>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jan
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: apache@materne.de
> > >>>> To: user@ant.apache.org
> > >>>> Subject: AW: problem with ftp
> > >>>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 06:54:00 +0100
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My first thought is that you are setting a property with a
> > >>>> strange
> > >>> name.
> > >>>> Could you run with "-d"? Maybe the debug output gives more
> hints.
> > >>>> While just reading the macrodef I couldnt find something =
suspect
> > ...
> > >>>> You are calling checkAntCommons and checkJakartaOro targets. I
> > dont
> > >>> know what happens there (or in the target from where you call
> > >>> deployHoftest).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>>>> Von: David Coleman [mailto:david_coleman_007@hotmail.com]
> > >>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. November 2013 20:35
> > >>>>> An: user@ant.apache.org
> > >>>>> Betreff: problem with ftp
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> hello list!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have an issue with my ftp task in ANT 1.9.1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> here is my ftp task:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>     <macrodef name=3D"deployHoftest" description=3D"Deploy =
lobby to
> > >>>>> hoftest">
> > >>>>>         <sequential>
> > >>>>>             <antcall target=3D"checkAntCommons"/>
> > >>>>>             <antcall target=3D"checkJakartaOro"/>
> > >>>>>             <ftp userid=3D"dave" password=3D"*******"
> > >>>>>                 server=3D"164.177.*********"
> > >>>>>                 remotedir=3D"/hoftest/assets/lobby"
> > >>>>>                 port=3D"21"
> > >>>>>                 verbose=3D"true"
> > >>>>>                 action=3D"send"
> > >>>>>                 passive=3D"yes"
> > >>>>>                 systemTypeKey=3D"UNIX"
> > >>>>>                >
> > >>>>>                 <fileset dir=3D"./deploy">
> > >>>>>                     <includesfile name=3D"deploy/Lobby.swf"/>
> > >>>>>                 </fileset>
> > >>>>>             </ftp>
> > >>>>>         </sequential>
> > >>>>>     </macrodef>
> > >>>>>     <target name=3D"deploy" description=3D"deploy lobby =
files">
> > >>>>>         <deployHoftest/>
> > >>>>>     </target>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I know that i successfully connect to my server because I get =
a
> > >>>>> login error if i change the password, and i get my problem if =
i
> > >>>>> put the right password.  I also connect via filezilla all the
> > >>>>> time.  it is not an issue of concurrent connections, because i
> > have no limit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> when i run this task i get the following output:
> > >>>>> =
f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.------------------.com\lobby\trunk>ant
> > >>>>> deploy
> > >>>>> Buildfile: f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> deploy:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> checkAntCommons:
> > >>>>>      [echo] checking for F:\bin\ant\lib/commons-net-1.4.1.jar
> > >>>>>      [echo] ANT commons-net library is available
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> checkJakartaOro:
> > >>>>>      [echo] checking for F:\bin\ant\lib/jakarta-oro-2.0.8.jar
> > >>>>>      [echo] jakarta-oro library is available
> > >>>>>       [ftp] sending files
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> BUILD FAILED
> > >>>>> f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml:324: The following error occurred
> > while
> > >>>>> executing this line:
> > >>>>> f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml:309: Syntax error in property:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > =
${=E2=98=BAc6W=E2=88=9F5=E2=8C=82[6=E2=96=84=E2=89=88=E2=98=BBw=C3=A45=E2=
=86=93=E2=95=9A=E2=95=9EK=E2=96=90Bd=E2=89=A16?k=E2=95=A5<=E2=95=9E:=C3=A8=
bE=E2=96=929=E2=89=A1'=E2=95=97=C3=AE=C2=A3=CE=98=E2=94=BC=C3=A8=E2=94=9C=
=E2=89=A4=E2=95=98r=E2=89=A4?=C3=B6=C3=A6Cu=C2=BD=E2=95=9E=E2=95=96=C2=A7=
=CE=A3=E2=99=A6=C3=A7=E2=96=93(=CF=83=E2=81=BF.?
> > >>>>> n=E2=89=A1P =
=C3=9F=CE=98=C3=A9K=E2=94=BC=E2=99=A3=CE=A3Rq!=E2=95=A3T,=C3=B2=E2=96=A0=C3=
=84=E2=95=A0W3=E2=95=91=C2=BB=C3=A6 ?=E2=88=9Ai =
=E2=95=A9=E2=86=91=E2=86=93UQa{=CF=83=E2=96=BC=C3=AE=C2=BC=E2=89=88Lpt=E2=
=96=A0=E2=94=BC=C3=87=E2=98=BB/=CE=B1=E2=94=90=E2=94=98D`=E2=95=AC!`8&=E2=
=94=9C
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > =
=C3=B2=C6=92=E2=98=BA=C3=9Cj=E2=96=B2?=E2=95=94=E2=98=BA=E2=99=A61Q.=C3=B4=
=C2=B2=C2=A2=E2=94=B4=E2=94=8C=C3=87a=C2=A3=E2=88=99=E2=96=92=E2=88=99O=C3=
=A6k=C3=B1cl=E2=95=9Cv=C3=91l^)w=E2=95=A0G=E2=95=92=E2=95=A0g=C3=A4=C3=AA=
yP=CE=B5=E2=95=98=E2=95=9F7=E2=96=91=E2=95=90=C2=B5u=E2=95=9A=C2=A1I=E2=94=
=90N6=C2=BB=C2=BA4%=E2=96=92=C3=86=C2=BA=E2=89=A5
> > >>>>> =C3=A1=3D=E2=8C=82
> > >>>>> =C3=AE5=E2=86=907=E2=95=9A=C2=B5
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Total time: 3 seconds
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.  It appears to
> me
> > >>>>> that for some reason ANT is trying to parse replacements in =
the
> > >>>>> binary data of the file I'm trying to transfer.  I am not an
> ANT
> > >>>>> guru, but something here seems very very very wrong.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Am I doing something wrong guys?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please help me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =
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> >
> > Scot P. Floess             RHCT  (Certificate Number =
605010084735240)
> > Chief Architect FlossWare  http://sourceforge.net/projects/flossware
> >                             http://flossware.sourceforge.net
> >
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