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From Jan Matèrne (jhm) <apa...@materne.de>
Subject AW: AW: AW: problem with ftp
Date Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:54:00 GMT
p.s.: Thanks Scot for your aid ;)

Jan

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jan Matèrne (jhm) [mailto:apache@materne.de]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. November 2013 10:52
> An: 'Ant Users List'
> Betreff: AW: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> 
> If someone comes with a problem and points to place where he think the
> sticking point is, I usually want to make my own picture. Maybe I see
> the same problem, maybe not. But there is a reason why someone stops at
> a certain point. And often enough I had seen that the real problem is
> "some lines before" and he was doctoring just at the symptoms.
> 
> You asked for help from a Guru. I am using and writing Ant since
> 1.3/2000, so I would think I have some knowledge here. But I wouldn't
> call myself as a Guru (nobody should call himself so in my opinion).
> 
> After your first response I was really annoyed and started an
> "unpleasant" reply, but I stopped myself and focused on the problem.
> Your error message doesn't fit to the code I saw so asked for more
> input.
> 
> But coming to an end: the problem is solved (because it was somewhere
> else) and I accept your apology, so we can work together in a better
> way in the future.
> 
> 
> If you think you have found a bug or just a "strange behaviour" in
> <ftp>, you may open a Bugzilla request.
> 
> 
> Jan
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: David Coleman [mailto:david_coleman_007@hotmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. November 2013 07:09
> > An: Ant Users List
> > Betreff: RE: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> >
> > I too thought it was darn condescending that he ignored my original
> > question entirely.
> >
> > I said:
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.  It appears
to
> me
> > >>>>> that for some reason ANT is trying to parse replacements in
the
> > >>>>> binary data of the file I'm trying to transfer.  I am not an
> ANT
> > >>>>> guru, but something here seems very very very wrong.
> >
> > I'm not usually one to respond as I did.  but I felt like he was very
> > condescending to ME.
> >
> > I only reach out for help when I'm SURE that it is something
> > extraordinary.
> >
> > In the end, I'm quite sure that there is a bug in the ftp task where
> > instead of reporting that the included file is invalid, it reads
> > binary garbage out of somewhere, and then if it happens to find a
> > ${*anything* in that data, tries to parse it.
> >
> > He totally ignored the relevant code and focused on lines of code
> > which were not even in question.  He sent 3 different emails all of
> > which were basically criticizing me for trying to share a more
> > complete picture than just pasting the <ftp> section.  and if I had
> > only pasted the <ftp> section I'm sure he would have wanted more
> information.
> >
> > Honestly, I'm sure he has helped many people.  But I think that just
> > because I'm new doesn't mean he can condescend me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:51:36 -0500
> > From: sfloess@nc.rr.com
> > To: user@ant.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I've been on this list a long time and know that Jan has helped a ton
> > of people.  Pretty darn cold and condescending to treat someone who -
> > was- trying to help.
> >
> > I use to post help often when I had the time...but haven't in days of
> > late.  I can tell you seeing someone come to this list seeking free
> > help and responding in such an ungrateful manor deserves to be
> ignored
> > in the future.  I'm thankful now I didn't have any free time to
> bother
> > looking into your problem.
> >
> > Perhaps some etiquette such as "thank you" but the problem was "fill
> > in the blank" would have been more appropriate?
> >
> >
> > Jan,
> >
> > Just sticking up for you here...this person doesn't deserve your
> > help...
> >
> >
> > Flossy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, David Coleman wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > thank you but I have found the issue.  Someone who actually read
> > > what
> > I posted and didn't focus on irrelevant matters pointed out that if
> my
> > target file was in the /deploy directory, then my include did not
> need
> > to include the "deploy" folder again.
> > >
> > > Thank you for worrying so much about optimizing my build but i
> > > assure
> > you, the answer was there for you to see if you had taken the time to
> > actually listen to me.
> > >
> > > Apparently for some reason ANT decided to read garbage out of
> > somewhere - memory/disk/somewhere - and then decided to parse it.
> > >
> > > It certainly should have thrown a different error, since NO
> > PROPERTIES were actually involved.  like i said.
> > >
> > > thank you again.  hopefully this will teach you to not dismiss
> > > people
> > so casually.
> > >
> > >> From: apache@materne.de
> > >> To: user@ant.apache.org
> > >> Subject: AW: AW: problem with ftp
> > >> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:47:48 +0100
> > >>
> > >>> and i specifically stated:
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.
> > >>
> > >> I could see that. But the error message "Syntax error in
> property:"
> > make me thought that something is wrong with properties.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> "checkAntCommons" and "checkJakartaOro" check for the libraries
> > that
> > >>> are required for the FTP task.  they are totally irrelevant.
> > >>
> > >> If they are totally irrelevant - have you tried to strip down your
> > build code?
> > >> Just remove the safety at the moment and delete all instructions
> > that are not required, e.g. availability checks of external libs,
> > additional settings in the ftp task ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I'm not going to provide our whole build xml file on an open
> forum.
> > >>> I provided the pieces that an experienced person will need to
> help
> > >>> me with this very strange issue.
> > >>
> > >> While I can understand that you wont to post the whole build file.
> > >> But you asked for help and dont want to provide further
> information
> > an "experienced person" may need?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I am running with -d.  it shows nothing, i get the debug output
> > >>> and then when it starts to send the file, it blows up complaining
> > >>> about a
> > >>> ${***GARBAGE*** property.
> > >>>
> > >>> trust me the ONLY call to the <ftp/> task is the code you see
> > below.
> > >>
> > >> Then again - strip your code to the absolute minimum.
> > >> In my own maintenance script of a homepage I use
> > >>
> > >> <ftp server="ftp.myserver.org" userid="user" password="password"
> > remotedir="my/remote/dir">
> > >>     <fileset dir="source" excludes="${excludes}"
> > includes="${includes}">
> > >>         <modified/>
> > >>     </fileset>
> > >> </ftp>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jan
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: apache@materne.de
> > >>>> To: user@ant.apache.org
> > >>>> Subject: AW: problem with ftp
> > >>>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 06:54:00 +0100
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My first thought is that you are setting a property with a
> > >>>> strange
> > >>> name.
> > >>>> Could you run with "-d"? Maybe the debug output gives more
> hints.
> > >>>> While just reading the macrodef I couldnt find something suspect
> > ...
> > >>>> You are calling checkAntCommons and checkJakartaOro targets. I
> > dont
> > >>> know what happens there (or in the target from where you call
> > >>> deployHoftest).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >>>>> Von: David Coleman [mailto:david_coleman_007@hotmail.com]
> > >>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. November 2013 20:35
> > >>>>> An: user@ant.apache.org
> > >>>>> Betreff: problem with ftp
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> hello list!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have an issue with my ftp task in ANT 1.9.1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> here is my ftp task:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>     <macrodef name="deployHoftest" description="Deploy lobby
to
> > >>>>> hoftest">
> > >>>>>         <sequential>
> > >>>>>             <antcall target="checkAntCommons"/>
> > >>>>>             <antcall target="checkJakartaOro"/>
> > >>>>>             <ftp userid="dave" password="*******"
> > >>>>>                 server="164.177.*********"
> > >>>>>                 remotedir="/hoftest/assets/lobby"
> > >>>>>                 port="21"
> > >>>>>                 verbose="true"
> > >>>>>                 action="send"
> > >>>>>                 passive="yes"
> > >>>>>                 systemTypeKey="UNIX"
> > >>>>>                >
> > >>>>>                 <fileset dir="./deploy">
> > >>>>>                     <includesfile name="deploy/Lobby.swf"/>
> > >>>>>                 </fileset>
> > >>>>>             </ftp>
> > >>>>>         </sequential>
> > >>>>>     </macrodef>
> > >>>>>     <target name="deploy" description="deploy lobby files">
> > >>>>>         <deployHoftest/>
> > >>>>>     </target>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I know that i successfully connect to my server because I get
a
> > >>>>> login error if i change the password, and i get my problem
if i
> > >>>>> put the right password.  I also connect via filezilla all the
> > >>>>> time.  it is not an issue of concurrent connections, because
i
> > have no limit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> when i run this task i get the following output:
> > >>>>> f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.------------------.com\lobby\trunk>ant
> > >>>>> deploy
> > >>>>> Buildfile: f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> deploy:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> checkAntCommons:
> > >>>>>      [echo] checking for F:\bin\ant\lib/commons-net-1.4.1.jar
> > >>>>>      [echo] ANT commons-net library is available
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> checkJakartaOro:
> > >>>>>      [echo] checking for F:\bin\ant\lib/jakarta-oro-2.0.8.jar
> > >>>>>      [echo] jakarta-oro library is available
> > >>>>>       [ftp] sending files
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> BUILD FAILED
> > >>>>> f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml:324: The following error occurred
> > while
> > >>>>> executing this line:
> > >>>>> f:\var\projects\hof\svn2.-----------------------
> > >>>>> .com\lobby\trunk\build.xml:309: Syntax error in property:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>>> á=⌂
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Total time: 3 seconds
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have absolutely NO variables in my macrodef.  It appears
to
> me
> > >>>>> that for some reason ANT is trying to parse replacements in
the
> > >>>>> binary data of the file I'm trying to transfer.  I am not an
> ANT
> > >>>>> guru, but something here seems very very very wrong.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Am I doing something wrong guys?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please help me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> >
> > Scot P. Floess             RHCT  (Certificate Number 605010084735240)
> > Chief Architect FlossWare  http://sourceforge.net/projects/flossware
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> >
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