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From "Martin Gainty" <>
Subject Re: Ant build Time
Date Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:47:09 GMT
I aint complaining but..The svn task is where maven beats Ant -
Granted I think its far less inutitive to work with (but with complexity comes a more robust
Look at this-

What maven svn task does is get source from (and if thats uneachable..)
goto file://BlahBlah

Bon Chance,
Martin --
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David TROGDON" <>
To: "Ant Users List" <>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ant build Time

> I don't think ANT adds significant time to a build. What does add time is
> the number files being compiled and files possibly being moved, copied etc.
> especially across a network.
> I routinely do builds composed of several thousands of files. Several years
> ago my build structure crossed several networked PC platforms. I would
> check files out of CVS on a development server and send them to another PC
> to be compiled, then move the compiled files to another system for target
> system preparation and finally execute Installshiled to package the files
> into a setup and finally move the files across the network again to a CD
> burner to create pre-production media. A build would take about 2 hours.
> Over time I learned I could get more reliable builds and faster builds by
> moving files around less. I still check files out from CVS across the
> network to a 'configuration management' PC where the rest of the build
> process takes place. I cleaned up the build quiet a bit by moving files
> around less (fewer preserved interim steps). I was keeping the source files
> in one directory, copying them to another directory to compile them and
> keeping the compiled files, moving the files to another directory to sort
> them out in a structure for the target system, and finally moving them
> again to a directory Installshied expects to find them.  Maintaining all
> these interim steps ended up taking a lot of drive space and served little
> purpose. I now keep the source directory, a working directory and the
> directory Installshield needs to access and package the final project. All
> this takes place on one PC instead of 3 or 4 across the network.
> One other thing that can save time is possibly evaluating the files you are
> compiling. We work in a Java environments that creates a lot of unit test
> files that do not need to be in the final product. These unit test files do
> not need to be compiled and are deleted before the compile process.
> If anything, through the years our projects and builds have gotten bigger
> and more complex. Once installed onto the target system the product
> currently hovers around 100MB in size
> Total build time is about 12 minutes.
> My semi educated guess tells me that about 25% of that 12 minutes is
> checking the files out of CVS across the network, another 25% is compile
> time, 15% is installation packaging the final 35% is local file
> manipulation in the form of moving, copying and a couple of specialized
> data base enhancement steps required for our product.
> So, moveing files across a network, compiling unnecessay files and
> excessive moving and copying of files locally all add time to the build.
> I would also consider my build platform in reguards to hard drive space,
> disk caching, memory, CPU speed etc.
>                      "Hanmay Udgiri"                                                
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>                      07/19/2006 03:18         Subject:  Ant build Time              
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> Hi
> I have a ant build which takes around 15 minutes.
> Do we have any tips to reduce the time taken for the total build
> --
> Thanks and Regards
> Hanmayya Udgiri
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