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From "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: No package found
Date Fri, 26 May 2006 17:59:39 GMT
its the vendor's responsibility to either inundate the implementor with debug information or
throttle the logs back for production run
Just my 2 farthings,
M-

P.S
How come your timestamp says 12:23 instead of 17:23???

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Loughran" <stevel@apache.org>
To: "Ant Users List" <user@ant.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: No package found


> Martin Gainty wrote:
>> Good Evening from across the pond-
>> 
>> As far as changing text strings I can see this as useful for language conversion
and going with locale specific Resource implementation
>> but I cant see the benefit of that feature 
>> *unless you can put in something like a 'turbo switch' which will ignore package
specifications*
>> 
> 
> I was thinking more of 'how do we replace an error message that nobody 
> without source access understands to one that is comprehensible'
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Martin-
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Loughran" <stevel@apache.org>
>> To: "Ant Users List" <user@ant.apache.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: No package found
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>Martin Gainty wrote:
>>>
>>>>Heres my take
>>>>If I am coding a once - y thing and it WORKS and I say wait a minute
>>>>this is a waste of time since I am doing the SAME operation for all entities
in a container
>>>>namely all file(s) in the folder
>>>>then I extract out the file specific stuff namely filename.extension and then
use the folder spec
>>>>
>>>>the level of sophistication of Java Developer should know that when I point
to this source folder thats it
>>>>If my equipment is pointing at the Sun when I should be pointing at Mars I
might fry the equipment thats ok
>>>>after all we're all professionals and we're supposed to know what we're doing..I
said supposed to
>>>>
>>>>My suggestions is Dont look for packages or anything else..thats way too much
handlholding besides thats the implementor's job
>>>
>>>I think the problem is the same as with javac, or java, its not enough 
>>>to hand off files to the tool, you need to hand of files in the right 
>>>package hierarchy. Ant tasks do have to know what params to send down to 
>>>javadoc, and if you look at those options its clearly a complex beast. 
>>>If you look at the command line options, it seems to want to know about 
>>>packages to exclude and subpackages too.
>>>
>>>i.e. javadoc command line takes
>>>-a list of packages
>>>-a list of files in the root folder
>>>
>>>Ant works backwards from directories with java files in (or package.html 
>>>files) to create a list of packages.
>>>
>>>so i'd conclude that yes, we do need to know about packages. A file 
>>>submitted as a self contained file will be assumed to be in the default 
>>>package, not in some sub package that is somehow guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>What could be done is to improve the error messages to make it clear 
>>>what is going on and provide hints as how to fix the build file. A URL 
>>>to a wiki entry would be one option, e.g.
>>>
>>>[info] skipping empty package, see 
>>>http://ant.apache.org/wiki/messages/javadoc#packages
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>So the same functionality that works for srcdir should work the SAME for sourcepath
except its not looking for a specific file its looking at the folder..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Other than that...Hows life in oregon these days??
>>>
>>>wouldnt know. UK now. Got bored with all the skiing, mountain biking, 
>>>sunny summers.
>>>
>>>
>>>>As always Its expensive living here in the democratic republic ...
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought it was now the FDR, not the DDR ;?
>>>
>>>>Thanks Steve,
>>>>M-
>>>
>>>-steve
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