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From: "Rainer Noack" <rainer@noacks.net>
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Subject: RE: nontrivial dependencies
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:08:45 +0200
Organization: Rainer Noack
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Hi Michael,
just a hint:
what's about <target/>'s if/unless attributes...
BTW: How would you handle this in eclipse?
Cheers
Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cepek [mailto:michael.cepek@spanlink.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:17 PM
> To: user@ant.apache.org
> Subject: nontrivial dependencies
> 
> 
> I've been trying for a very long time now (many man-days) to 
> create Ant build scripts to handle our new corporate project.
> 
> I've been using Ant for over 3 years, and programming 
> professionally for over 25 years.
> 
> Despite all that, I cannot seem to get Ant to do what we need 
> on this project.  I am becoming extremely frustrated and 
> disillusioned with Ant as a build tool.  Yet in my heart I 
> feel like there is an elegant solution.
> 
> Perhaps some gurus can enlighten me?
>  _  _  _  _  _  _  _
> 
> Our project has a pretty basic layout:
> 
>   dev/foo/build.xml
>   dev/foo/config/runtime.properties
>   dev/foo/config/log4j.properties
>   dev/foo/lib/
>   dev/foo/log/
>   dev/foo/src/cpp/...
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/admin/
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/db/
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/controller/
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/
> 
> Note the (as-yet undefined) src/cpp/ subtree for C++ code.
> 
> Here is a sample layout for one of the java package directories:
> 
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/build.xml
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/DbUtils.java
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/StringUtils.java
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/classes/
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/javadoc/
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/test/testAll
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/test/testDbUtils.java
>   dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util/test/testStringUtils.java
> 
> Our team needs to be able to use the following Ant targets 
> from within ANY of the top-level java package directories 
> (xxx = one of these package names:  admin, db, controller, and util):
> 
>   compile - compile .java into .class files which are put into
>             company/foo/xxx/classes/ for package xxx only.
> 
>   build - create lib/xxx.jar (containing non-test files) and
>           create lib/xxx-test.jar (containint test-only files);
>           depends on compile.
> 
>   test - run unit tests for package xxx; depends on build.
> 
>   javadoc - put javadoc for package xxx only into the
>             company/foo/xxx/javadoc directory.
> 
>   clean - delete buildable files for xxx only.
> 
> We also need these targets:  build-all, test-all, 
> javadoc-all, and clean-all.  These would build everything for 
> both Java and C++.
> 
> We need to use these targest both from the command-line AND 
> from within our IDE (currently Eclipse).  A command-line example:
> 
>    $ cd dev/foo/src/java/com/company/foo/util
>    $ ant clean-all test
> 
> The above would first delete all buildable .jar, .class and 
> .dll files from the whole project.  Then just the "util" 
> package would be compiled, built, and unit-tested (we are 
> using JUnit).
> 
> We would prefer to rely on Ant's Core Tasks only, if at all possible.
> 
> The dev/foo/build.xml file uses <property 
> file="config/runtime.properties"> to bring in the common 
> properties definitions like:
> 
>   SRCDIR=${basedir}/${ant.project.name}
>   CLASSES=classes
>   LIB=lib
>   CONFIG=config
>   LOG=log
>   JAVADOC_FTP_HOST=192.168.12.34
>   JAVADOC_FTP_DIR=html/foo/api
>   JAVADOC_FTP_USR=anonymous
>   JAVADOC_FTP_PWD=none
>   JUNIT_RUNNER=junit.textui.TestRunner
> 
> Finally, we need each package to first compile and/or build 
> any packages on which it depends.
> 
> [Doesn't everyone need to do this?]
>   _  _  _  _  _  _  _
> 
> I have tried many combinations of <import>, <subant>, <ant>, 
> <antcall>, <target depends="...">, and <macrodef>.
> 
> I have hit brick walls every time (not Ant bugs).
> 
> For example:  To use Ant from the command line in any package 
> directory, there needs to be a build.xml file in each.  
> Ideally these would be as small as possible to minimize Ant 
> script code replication, ease maintenance, and simpify the 
> creation of new packages.  I tried many ideas along the lines 
> of Joe Schmetzer's post on 9-May-2005 to this list.  Nothing 
> has worked out.
> 
> My favorite aspect of Joe's solution was having each simply 
> "name itself" using the <project name="..."> attribute, and 
> then rely on ${ant.project.name} to know what the originating 
> package was.  Each of those package-level Ant scripts was 
> perfectly minimal:
> 
>     <project name="com/company/foo/admin"
>             default="usage" basedir="../../../../../..">
>         <import file="${basedir}/build.xml" optional="false"/>
>     </project>
> 
> Anyway...
> 
> One of the key issues is:  how to handle the dependencies?
> 
> At the moment I'm out of time to write more (my carpool is 
> here).  This post is probably plenty long anyway.
> 
> Has anyone put together solutions like this?  Care to share 
> some working scripts?  Any other suggestions or 
> recommendations?  Thank you.
> 
> 
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