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From "Ryan P Ripley" <ryan.rip...@zimmer.com>
Subject RE: ANT visions and best practices
Date Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:11:42 GMT
To get the book even quicker, you could go to www.manning.com and
purchase the ebook (pdf) version of the book.

--Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias P. [mailto:groups.mpatzak@gmx.de] 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Ant Users List
Subject: RE: ANT visions and best practices


Hi Simon,

thanks a lot for the divide and conquer tatctik. I will follow it... and
i will keep asking... and i will buy the book soon. I am sure i will
gain a lot of experience the next month and then can help other members
of the group...

Bye,
Matthias

> That's quite an application you have there. Looks like this would
> benefit from a divide and conquor approach. Start by figuring out the 
> dependencies between deliverables. Can you build the client without
the 
> DB and EJB's? If you can, then keep that as a sub-project and let it 
> have it's own build file. We don't use EJBs here yet, so someone else 
> will need to offer code for building those. Build those separately and

> use the resulting JAR files as dependencies for other sub-projects
that 
> need them.
> 
> Summary: build each module as a separate sub-project. Use the output
> >from builds as the input to other builds. Keep asking for help.
> 
> Pay for overnight shipping on the Ant book or find a bookstore that
> would carry it. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and buy the

> book yourself to get the job done in realistic timeframes (just ask my

> poor wife, who shakes her head everytime a parcel arrives from 
> Amazon.com at our doorstep!)
> 
> Simon
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Matthias P. [mailto:groups.mpatzak@gmx.de]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:31 AM
> >To: Ant Users List
> >Subject: RE: ANT visions and best practices
> >
> >
> >Hi Simon,
> >
> >it will be a large reporting system (about 20.000.000 EUR in the 
> >first year).
> >- Oracle DB
> >- Java Backend with EJBs based on own framework
> >- Websphere Application Server
> >- two logical data storage areas (relational for recording, dwh for
> >reporting)
> >- Java Client based on own framework
> >- (second) Client for Reporting
> >- (bought) Reporting Server
> >- Interfaces to 7 other reporting systems
> >
> >What additional information do u need?
> >
> >Bye,
> >Matthias
> >
> >
> >> I'll second that. Also, let this list know what manner of
> >project you
> >> are building for and perhaps someone here might have a suitable
> >> build.xml that you can use as a starting point. I know that 
> >I have one
> >> for building a Struts based WAR file that I could donate to a good
> >> cause.
> >> 
> >> Simon
> >> 
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Simon P. Chappell                     simon.chappell@landsend.com
> >> Java Programming Specialist                      www.landsend.com
> >> Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:DDevienne@lgc.com]
> >> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:21 AM
> >> >To: 'Ant Users List'
> >> >Subject: RE: ANT visions and best practices
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I'd advise to read the Hatcher & Loughran as fast as you can
> >> >to become an
> >> >Ant expect in no time ;-) --DD
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Matthias P. [mailto:groups.mpatzak@gmx.de]
> >> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:13 AM
> >> >To: user@ant.apache.org
> >> >Subject: ANT visions and best practices
> >> >
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >I am new to ANT but need to work with it as the responsible
> >> >configuration
> >> >manager (Please dont ask why someone who has never worked 
> >with ANT was
> >> >appointed as configuration manager. I hope my manager knows
> >> >what is best for
> >> >his
> >> >project ;-))
> >> >
> >> >Until now i started to do the tutorials, compile some sources etc.
> >> >What i would like to know is what wonders and miracles can be 
> >> >done with ANT?
> >> >
> >> >On what ANT-implementations on your project are you really
> >proud of?
> >> >Its just to get an idea and vision what can be done with ANT.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you for your attention. I hope in some month i can give
> >> >you back some
> >> >of my new gained knowledge.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Matthias (from the lovely and sunny Munich)
> >> >
> >> 
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