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From "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chapp...@landsend.com>
Subject RE: Research question
Date Mon, 01 Apr 2002 19:46:19 GMT
It's looking like Ant is a complete shoo-in (shoe-in?) after all. After MUCH searching through
the search engines I have found very little to compete with ant. Perhaps this helps to explain
why it took off so quickly.

Simon

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:jakarta-ant@ehatchersolutions.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:37 PM
>To: Ant Users List
>Subject: Re: Research question
>
>
>Nope, Ant is a complete shoe-in!  :)
>
>James Duncan Davidson (the creator of Ant) spun off another tool called
>Amber, but I don't believe its being actively developed - 
>although if it is
>I'd love to hear about it.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chappell@landsend.com>
>To: "Ant Users List" <ant-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:18 PM
>Subject: RE: Research question
>
>
>We already use JBuilder and I have AntRunner working just 
>fine. My issue is
>not against the IDE's, they do seem to give most of our developers
>productivity benefits, but I want to have a separate build 
>tool for those
>times when you can't use an IDE: integration builds, over 
>night builds etc.
>My 110% preference is for ant, but I'm trying to at least show 
>that there
>were other tools to pick from and that ant wasn't a complete shoo-in.
>
>Simon
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Simon P. Chappell                     simon.chappell@landsend.com
>Java Programming Specialist                      www.landsend.com
>Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com]
>>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:18 PM
>>To: Ant Users List
>>Subject: Re: Research question
>>
>>
>>
>>make, that java port of make and IDEs. IDEs are the
>>alternative you will
>>probably have to deal with the most, "why use a command line
>>tool, when my
>>IDE does everything"? You can address that by showing how most
>>modern IDEs
>>(all but jbuilder) host ant, giving developers a choice of IDEs
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <Simon.Chappell@landsend.com>
>>To: "Ant User mailing list (E-mail)" <ant-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:39 AM
>>Subject: Research question
>>
>>
>>I'm writing a proposal for using ant internally as part of 
>our standard
>>build process and I am having difficulty finding information on the
>>alternatives to ant. I have tried many different searches on 
>the mighty
>>Google, but with less than wonderful success. The few that I
>>found seem to
>>mostly have withered and died and a few even suggest switching
>>to ant! :-)
>>
>>Can folks on this list point me at a few other tools that I
>>can list in my
>>document. Specifically, I am looking for build tools that are
>>designed for
>>Java systems (hence "make" doesn't make the cut).
>>
>>Simon
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>Simon P. Chappell                     simon.chappell@landsend.com
>>Java Programming Specialist                      www.landsend.com
>>Lands' End, Inc.                                   (608) 935-4526
>>
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