Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-ant-user-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 87106 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 10:50:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Nov 2001 10:50:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 13871 invoked by uid 97); 30 Nov 2001 10:50:11 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-ant-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 13851 invoked by uid 97); 30 Nov 2001 10:50:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ant-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Ant Users List" Reply-To: "Ant Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list ant-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 13840 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 10:50:10 -0000 Message-ID: <00cc01c1798c$c79c0dc0$6401a8c0@darden.virginia.edu> From: "Erik Hatcher" To: "Ant Users List" References: <006a01c178e5$2697c8d0$0900a8c0@darden.virginia.edu> <20011130104130.G26617@snow.socialchange.net.au> Subject: Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:50:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N If ant-dev gave users everything they requested then they might as well be using Perl to write build "scripts" rather than build "files" as the preferred Ant terminology is. :) Ant users are very fortunate to have a crew of committers that put their foot down and prevent many "seemingly" useful features from making it into Ant's core - and Ant is sufficiently extensible such that folks that wish to break the rules can do so at their own risk. One of the primary keys to Ant's power is in property immutability such that properties can be "overridden" (actually, by this I mean defined first) in a controlled and predictable manner by the command-line switch -D or by very organized ordering of statements. Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Turner" To: "Ant Users List" Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:47:24AM -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote: > > Quick question: Are you relying on 's back door to changing > > property values? > > There's a backdoor? Cool!! How do I use it? > > ;) > > But seriously, I've never seen a project with greater disparity between > what users want (perl), and what the developers want (prolog). > > --Jeff > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > For additional commands, e-mail: > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: