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From Jeff Turner <j...@socialchange.net.au>
Subject Re: [POLL] jakarta-ant-templates (Generic Ant-based project templates)
Date Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:13:18 GMT
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:47:45PM +0200, Leon Breedt wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:36:39PM +1100, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > I was wondering, how do people feel about developing "common",
> > "universal", "generic" build.xml scripts for common needs?
> i've had this exact need.
> 
> > My very first build.xml was copied from an Apache project, and hacked to
> > meet my needs. Subsequent projects were all cut-and-paste affairs. Over
> > time, as I noticed that most projects are pretty similar, I formalized
> > this by creating a "generic" build.xml, and an associated template
> > project structure.
> guess what i did this weekend :) my idea was to also supply
> a skeleton generator, which would prompt for some
> project-specific information, and perform mangling of the
> template (token substitution), the end result being a
> compilable skeleton app.

Sounds like an interesting addition to the "solution space". 

['ant -projecthelp' output]
> 
> one addition i'd want:
> 
> 	'fetch-build-depends'
> 		- download application build dependencies
>                   used Debian Linux's apt-get build? the
>                   very same idea.
> 
> the reason being that i don't generally put JARs except
> required to bootstrap the build system into
> source control systems, being of the pristine source
> school.

Oo yes I forgot.. a template build system also lets new users play with
the latest techniques like this. Ever wanted to try JJAR
(auto-jar-download-thingy), but never had the time? As soon as Geir or
someone contributes a demo system, the learning curve is dramatically
decreased. One trailblazer does the work and the rest of us follow and
learn at a gentler pace. It's how civilizations advance; it's how Ant
can advance :)

--Jeff

> regards,
> leon.

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