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From "dhl patel" <>
Subject Re: Installing ant
Date Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:04 GMT

>From: Bill Burton <>
>Subject: Re: Installing ant
>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:44:47 -0500
>Peter Donald wrote:
> >
> > At 08:45  19/3/01 -0500, Bill Burton wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >In all the conversation with the problems using tar, the thought 
> > >to me, "What about cpio?"
> >
> > I don't use cpio but is the options standard. ie Would an admin 
> > know how to extract them ? If so .... all it needs is someone to 
> > a cpio task ;)
>Yes, the options for cpio are standard or at least for the usual ones that 
>specified in my last message.  But I don't know how many people use cpio
>other than administrators.  For some reason unknown to me, tar has become
>the defacto standard for UNIX software distribution despite its technical
>limitations with the 100 character limit.  I guess most applications never
>ran into that limit until Java came along.
>If Ant were to support cpio, it would for now have to execute a native cpio
>unless someone knows of (or is willing to write) a Java implementation.  
>cpio on Linux is a GNU version which has been around for years.  Given the
>issues with the ASL vs. GPL, it would be better to base an all-Java
>implementation on some other version.  For now, I think the effort would be
>better spent making Ant's tar work better, i.e. supporting the Solaris
>extensions.  How do other UNIX OS vendors support long names in tar?
>Going forward, a better solution might be to have a self-extracting .jar
>distribution for Ant where you would "run" the jar file causing it to
>extract itself then executing a chmod +x on any scripts it knows about.  
>next logical thing would be simple extensions to the jar task making it
>easier for people to create their own self-extracting jars.  This could 
>become the basis for an Ant based software installation and configuration

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