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From: "Jason Rosenberg" <jason@squaretrade.com>
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Subject: Re: Explicit values only in properties file?
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:25:50 -0500
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Conor MacNeill" <conor@ebinteractive.com.au>
To: <ant-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Explicit values only in properties file?


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Rosenberg [mailto:jason@squaretrade.com]
> > 
> > I am not sure I understand exactly what you want to do,
> > but you certainly can reference previously defined properties
> > within a properties file, and preserve the same ordering
> > that is required for your scripting to work
> 
> No, order is unimportant. Forward references are resolved. 
> 

Yes, I stand corrected, forward references within a given properties
file are resolved.  But references that span a series of properties
files will not behave that way, so, the loading of properties
files is order dependent, which is compatible with the notion
that the evaluating of <property> tags is also order dependent
at run-time......

So, individual properties declared within a properties file behave
differently than the properties declared directly in the xml.  We
should be thinking of properties declared in files as a self-resolving
group of properties.  Properties declared outside the group
won't have that behavior.

Any plans to make all property loading non-order dependent?
That really would float the declarative boat, wouldn't it?

> > , since, after
> > all, we are all scripting here.
> > 
> 
> whatever floats you boat.
> 

My boat is not out of dry dock yet.