Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ant-ivy-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 99875 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2008 14:48:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Jun 2008 14:48:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 54507 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jun 2008 14:48:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ant-ivy-user-archive@ant.apache.org Received: (qmail 54479 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jun 2008 14:48:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ivy-user-help@ant.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ivy-user@ant.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ivy-user@ant.apache.org Received: (qmail 54467 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jun 2008 14:48:37 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:48:37 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [206.190.58.153] (HELO web55104.mail.re4.yahoo.com) (206.190.58.153) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:47:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 86895 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2008 14:47:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=SZjScv0kw/aoecDQJNA5mjww/4KY3jEN5+6TKRbu86SbxVkAIZYATr0/TktS6q9utO6QrbltUh+YRApPPdQokI5VrHLOlNzmygQFSR9AqUt2aCBo0xw28OnhfTvRqupTwUxu22uF+68TwSZRsQU1olTQ/fvAxKXzyi+aETxHb08=; X-YMail-OSG: MzMrKJgVM1la9BYQBsU3Y63.SxuEzy0ruWqusXvlzEmDzEJsCSjUZMii3pxcnRhgLB2Wh7bWRlmRe.YjLsXnk8f74mJr5TNoWkv8VKpg5JEZUmSs90hX7BUKWK.lj_Ku20j_a9rFCreivn3694ffpr8- Received: from [67.142.130.16] by web55104.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:47:03 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Benson Subject: Re: Plea for a forum To: ivy-user@ant.apache.org In-Reply-To: <635a05060806240241p18a2268doe185970632c74a2e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <994900.86651.qm@web55104.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --- Xavier Hanin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM, > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "For what it's worth, I'm pretty much in favour of > mailing lists, and > > in my ever so humble opinion I'm not a dinosaur, > I'm quite the > > hipster. For me the main argument is as stated - > being able to track > > lots of lists simultaneously. GMail does this > excellently - I have a > > special account which I only use for mailing > lists, all mail gets > > tagged when it comes in and optionally archived > immediately" > > > > This may well be, but completely useless for those > of us who do not have > > access to web mail from work. THis is why we need > a forum. > > > > Last comment on the thread, up to the IVY guys now > to decide. > > Not really, Ivy being a project of the ASF, we have > to follow the ASF rules. > And the ASF is clear on the subject [1]: > "Communication is done via mailing > lists." > Thank you, Xavier. I was just about to post a link to http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html, but your link is actually a little clearer. > That being said, I also like the mailing lists for > reasons listed by others. > IMO tools like google group offer the best of both > worlds. But maybe the > best would simply be mail 2.0 [2] [3] > One would really think that between Nabble and Markmail all the other arguments against mailing lists are moot. Markmail is really nice. -Matt > Xavier > > [1] > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#communication > [2] > http://www.jroller.com/robertburrelldonkin/entry/mail2_0_smtp_vs_blogging > [3] http://code.google.com/p/rmep/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Target > > www.targetgroup.net > > > > Target is a trading name of Target Group Limited, > > registered in England and Wales No. 1208137 > > Registered office: Target House, Cowbridge Road > East, Cardiff CF11 9AU > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > DISCLAIMER. > > This message is intended only for the use of the > Addressee and may > > contain information that is PRIVILEGED and > CONFIDENTIAL. > > If you are not the intended recipient you must not > copy, > > distribute or take any action or reliance upon it. > > The content of this message may also contain > personal > > views of an employee of this company and does > > not necessarily represent the view of the company. > > > ********************************************************************** > > This message has been scanned by Norton > Anti-Virus. > > It has also been scanned by MAILsweeper to enforce > our e-mail > > policy. 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