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From Niklas Matthies <>
Subject Re: specify versions separate from dependencies
Date Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:05:15 GMT
On Wed 2008-02-27 at 18:56h, Xavier Hanin wrote on ivy-user:
> Mm, we currently use dependencies/dependency only for direct
> dependencies. And this is not a direct dependency. So I'd really
> prefer to keep it separated, as the conflicts section.

Scott Oster hits the nail on the head when he says that it's actually
a revision constraint. It occurs to me that it might generally be
helpful to distinguish between dependencies ("module A requires
module B, period") and revision constraints ("module A only works with
revisions x to y of module B (not necessarily implying that A requires

You might remember our discussion where I wanted (for the purpose of
build reproducability) the earliest, rather than the latest, revision
to be retrieved that matches specific version constraints. The problem
there was as well that a corresponding conflict manager would only
kick in when there's an actual conflict. Maybe what we really need is
a "revision selector" which selects one or more revisions from the set
of revisions that is the intersection between the set of revisions
available in the repository and the set defined by the revision
constraints. (This has aspects from both latest-strategy and conflict
managers.) An actual conflict manager would only kick in when the set
defined by the version constraints becomes empty, i.e. when there is a
conflict between the *constraints* imposed by (different) dependent

I need to think a bit about how this could be made efficient in terms
of minimizing ivy file retrievals. (I'm pretty certain it can.)

-- Niklas Matthies

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