Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ivy-user-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 72399 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 19:46:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Oct 2007 19:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 93756 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2007 19:46:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ivy-user-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93593 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2007 19:46:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ivy-user-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ivy-user@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ivy-user@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93584 invoked by uid 99); 15 Oct 2007 19:46:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:46:46 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.0 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,WHOIS_MYPRIVREG X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of lists@nabble.com designates 216.139.236.158 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.139.236.158] (HELO kuber.nabble.com) (216.139.236.158) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:46:49 +0000 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IhVtU-00022R-Jl for ivy-user@incubator.apache.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:46:28 -0700 Message-ID: <13220377.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: mguadagna To: ivy-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Extremely Slow to Resolve In-Reply-To: <022901c80f3d$0539b9b0$0fad2d10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: mguadagna@yahoo.com References: <13201631.post@talk.nabble.com> <022901c80f3d$0539b9b0$0fad2d10$@com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org kito99 wrote: > > By the way, why are you switching from Maven? (Just curious.) > In short, we switched to Maven2 earlier this year. At first it seemed appealing to have standardization, and we were willing to learn what we needed to make it work for us. We got the basic stuff to work, used many plug-ins, and wrote a few as well. What we found is that we never really got over the struggling, though. The struggles continued every time we wanted to extend our build process in some way. What seemed like it should take only 5 mintues, pretty much always took us much longer. The documentation is so poor, we found we had the learn more about the black magic (aka convention) than we wanted to just to understand what it was doing -- so much for the ease of convention over configuration. We opted to go back to Ant where we could plainly see what was going on. In a work, Ant+Ivy is simple, transparent, and flexible. We now get stuff done in 5 minutes again. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Extremely-Slow-to-Resolve-tf4622650.html#a13220377 Sent from the ivy-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.