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From "Xavier Hanin" <xavier.ha...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon Talk
Date Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:42:42 GMT
On 3/9/07, Vishal Vishnoi <vvishnoi@bea.com> wrote:
>
> I like how you have presented pro's of both (Ant + Ivy) and Maven.
>
> My personal experience have been that Ivy WORKS :-). I've seen many
> projects trying to use Maven and crash and burn..imagine a
> build/dependency management system, which is so crippling and brittle.
>
> My favorite quote from someone using Maven was:
>
> "/I understood the technology of the project in not time. It took me
> ages to figure out how Maven works. Doing simple things is very hard.
> It's very buggy and has horrendous documentation/"
>
> I know you can't state this in your presentation, but just wanted to
> let you know that I'm glad Ivy is around for us to use with Ant.


Thanks for these kind words, I always appreciate them.  Maybe to reflect
what you say I can add to the pros of Ant+Ivy "no magic". I don't find the
good words (at least not in english :-)), but I think you get the idea.

- Xavier

--Vishal
>
> Xavier Hanin wrote:
> > Thanks to your feedback I've updated the slides to integrate your
> > suggestions. I haven't tested if I'll have enough time with those
> > slides, it
> > may be a bit too long now.
> >
> > Tell me what you think would be the best to cut down if I need time. And
> > give me your feedback on the changes, especially on Maven / Ivy
> > comparison,
> > I wan't to be as fair as possible, so I'll welcome any comment.
> >
> > Thanks for your time,
> >
> > - Xavier
> >
> > On 3/9/07, Xavier Hanin <xavier.hanin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Ivy users,
> >>
> >> As you probablu alreaday know I'll give a talk at next ApacheCon
> >> Europe :
> >> http://www.eu.apachecon.com/program/talk/47
> >>
> >> I've just started preparing the slides, and I would like to gather some
> >> feedback. Obviously without the talk it's more difficult to get an
> >> opinion,
> >> but anyway, if you have time the very early draft of the slides is
> >> available
> >> here:
> >>
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ivy/core/trunk/doc/presentations/apache-con-2007/slides.ppt
> >>
> >>
> >> Any feedback would be strongly appreciated!
> >>
> >> - Xavier
> >>
> >
>
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