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From "Xavier Hanin" <xavier.ha...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Ivy talk at ApacheCon Europe 2007?
Date Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:16:39 GMT
On 1/10/07, Steve Loughran <stevel@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Xavier Hanin wrote:
> > On 1/10/07, Steve Loughran <stevel@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Xavier Hanin wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > I plan to make a proposal for a talk on Ivy at ApacheCon Europe 07.
> I'm
> >> > still wondering what kind of talk could be the most interesting.
> >> IMHO an
> >> > introduction for Ivy newbie or even for people who never heard about
> >> Ivy
> >> > would be the most interesting, since Ivy is not of widespread use for
> >> the
> >> > moment. What do you think? Do you see any particular things that
> would
> >> > really be interesting to talk about? Do you have any suggestion?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your input.
> >> >
> >> > Xavier
> >> >
> >>
> >> Using Ivy to manage dependencies in Ant
> >>
> >> -What it is
> >> -What it does
> >> -managing dependencies in a single project
> >> -publishing artifacts
> >> -choreography
> >> -relationship w/ Maven
> >> -migratng to Ivy
> >> -internals
> >> -status
> >
> >
> > This is a good plan. One question: what do you put in choreography?
>
> "choreography" is the term we use @work for for coordinating complex
> things. It has that notion of a delicate dance where things are hard to
> get right. Like bringing up the vmware image, then mysql, once mysql is
> up you start the app server with mysql connectin patched in, etc etc.
> The problem is not just the actions, it is ordering them.
>
> In Ivy, I view 'choreography' as the task of creating an ordered list of
> build files to hand to subant. When presenting I'd also discuss its big
> limit: <subant> takes a list not a tree, so cannot handle failures of
> single builds by skipping the dependencies. That's something we'll need
> to fix in Ant with some kind of tree type.
>
> >
> > I have to do this presentation internally next week; no slideware yet.
> >>
> >> If you can share some thoughts with me, it would be very helpful.
>
> I'll see if I can do the rough slides tomorrow and put them in the
> public smartfrog SVN repo.


Thanks! Note that I'm not in a hurry, I don't really need them to make my
proposal, and I'll work on the slides only if the proposal is accepted.

Xavier

-steve
>

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