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From "Eric Crahen" <>
Subject Re: Disconnected Development
Date Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:33:19 GMT
The bigger problem to me is the delay it would introduce if I tried to
hit a website all the time. It would be noticable, and when I was
I'd have to wait however long it takes the connection to time out, which
is not acceptable if I want to use an approach where I do builds very often.

On 12/22/06, Steve Loughran <> wrote:
> Gilles Scokart wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I think that detecting that you are offline or online is
> > something quiet difficult.  So the user will have to pass some
> information
> > in his ant command line.
> >
> the big problem is deciding if a system is offline. I've lots of low
> level win32 stuff related to network state and while you can be 100%
> sure you are offline when there is no lan or modem, the presence of any
> of those things (or a WLAN, or an ipaddr outside the 169.* range) does
> not mean that you are online. If you cannot reliably tell WTF is going
> on in C++, you don't stand a chance in java. Hitting remote sites is the
> only way to be sure.
> Ant1.7 has an IsReachable condition that does a ping, which wont go
> through firewalls. If you want to check a remote http server, then GET
> is all you have
> How Ant does it:
>    <target name="probe-offline">
>      <condition property="offline">
>        <or>
>          <isset property="offline"/>
>          <not>
>            <http url=""/>
>          </not>
>        </or>
>      </condition>
>      <echo level="verbose"> offline=${offline}</echo>
>    </target>
> -steve


- Eric

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