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From "Oulds, Jonathan" <jonathan.ou...@intel.com>
Subject RE: Ivy - Proposal for reviving the project and moving towards a release
Date Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:47:30 GMT
I'd like to add my vote for a 2.4.1 release.  We don't want to raise the expectation that there
will be substantial new functionality (which would warrant a 2.5.0 version).

However, if the 2.4.1 release goes well I would certainly suggest that we aim for a 2.5.0
release in the second half of 2017.

Longer term I would suggest that we try to maintain a regular release schedule ideally two
per year as below:
Q1 - Bug fix:
Q3 - Bug fix plus at least one new feature:



Jonathan Oulds
Snr. Software Engineer
McAfee


-----Original Message-----
From: J Pai [mailto:jai.forums2013@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:11 AM
To: Ant Developers List <dev@ant.apache.org>; Maarten Coene <maarten_coene@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ivy - Proposal for reviving the project and moving towards a release

Maarten, thanks for volunteering to review the PRs. One of them has a test case. I will add
a test for the other one.

It looks like you have been involved with Ivy development and releases before, so I think
you would be in a better position to decide if it should be 2.5.0 or 2.4.1. I personally prefer
2.4.1 because we are focussing on fixing some reported issues rather than introducing some
new features.

As for the release timeline, the reason I asked for a March 2017 date is to make sure we have
a realistic goal in mind of releasing it instead of a open ended one which drags can potentially
drag on for a while given the current state of the project. Having said that, you and others
in ant-dev team who have been involved in previous releases can decide what makes sense in
terms of release commitments. My whole goal is to try and get a usable bug fix release out
soon, since the last one was 2 years back.

-Jaikiran

On Monday, December 12, 2016, Maarten Coene <maarten_coene@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Thanks Jaikran,
> I will look at your patches, I'll try to do it this week.If possible,
please attach a junit test as well to reproduce the problem.
>
> About the release, the master branch already contains some fixes since
the 2.4.0 release. They are listed in the release-notes.html in the 'doc'
directory. If we want to create a 2.4.1 release, we should merge all these changes (and all
upcomming patches) into the 2.4.x branch as well. If we decide to create a 2.5.0 release,
this merging isn't necessary. I wouldn't pin on an exact timing, we can create a release any
time when we think the codebase is ready for it.
>
> We also have to find a release manager. I did it in the past when we 
> were
on SVN, but I don't have enough GIT knowledge (and I don't have the time to look into it)
to do a new release.
>
> Maarten
>
>       Van: Jaikiran Pai <jai.forums2013@gmail.com>
>  Aan: dev@ant.apache.org
>  Verzonden: zondag 11 december 15:22 2016
>  Onderwerp: Ivy - Proposal for reviving the project and moving towards 
> a
release
>
> First off, I'm not an Ivy or Ant committer. The proposal that I make 
> below for an Ivy release is based on what was discussed in a recent 
> mail thread about the future of Ivy 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@ant.apache.org/msg45078.html. There 
> was a suggestion that someone from community volunteer to try and 
> bring in some activity into the project and see if we can create a 
> release after triaging the JIRA issues.
>
>
> I have had a look at the open issues in JIRA today and decided to 
> filter out issues that are open, updated since Jan 2014 and affects 
> versions 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4. I decided to use this as a filter 
> criteria to just select a few that I thought can be considered 
> "active". This [1] returns 57 issues. I went ahead and looked at those 
> issues today and have asked for more information in the JIRAs wherever 
> relevant and have sent a couple of pull requests [2] [3] to fix some straightforward
ones.
> I also have another PR that I opened this week to fix one other issue.
> Out of those 57 issues, many are no longer relevant or don't have 
> enough details. I don't have JIRA privileges to label them, share 
> filters or even assign some to myself to track them better. So I think 
> for now, we can rely on that JIRA search query [1].
>
> At this point, I think, if we can target March 2017 for releasing a
> 2.4.1-Beta-1 with fixes from the list of JIRAs I think that would be a 
> good start. Some of the issues noted in that JIRA are indeed important 
> ones and would need some review/help in fixing them correctly, which 
> essentially means, we need at least one person who has had experience 
> with the Ivy code and its design details and also has the committer
rights.
>
>
> Does any of this look feasible? Let me know if this isn't enough to 
> move things forward - I don't want to end up sending PRs and spending 
> time on this if there's no way we can get to a proper release in the 
> next few months.
>
>
> [1]
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1553?jql=project%20%3D%20IVY%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20affectedVersion%20in%20(2.1.0%2C%202.2.0%2C%202.3.0%2C%202.4.0%2C%202.4.0-RC1)%20AND%20updated%20%3E%3D%202014-01-01%20ORDER%20BY%20updated%20DESC
>
> [2] https://github.com/apache/ant-ivy/pull/11
>
> [3] https://github.com/apache/ant-ivy/pull/12
>
> -Jaikiran
>
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