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Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 15:04:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: Hoped for advantages of migrating to git
From: Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
To: Ant Developers List <dev@ant.apache.org>
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I think it would work better to just do development on ASF, but accept pull
requests via GitHub somewhat manually. This is how it's done with Apache
Camel: http://camel.apache.org/contributing.html

So it's done manually. Plus, nobody can write to the ASF GitHub repos
without pulling some strings in INFRA to do something about it, and I don't
think they like that idea anyhow due to the bylaws regarding what was
already said above.


On 7 May 2014 01:28, Jan Mat=C3=A8rne (jhm) <apache@materne.de> wrote:

> As a ASF project we MUST have a repo in Apache land:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/writable-git
> "ASF releases must be cut from the canonical ASF Git repositories."
>
> The absolute minimum is therefore:
> - working on somewhere else
> - starting a release:
> -- pull all changes to local
> -- push to ASF-repo
> -- create a branch/tag in the ASF repo for the release
> -- do the release
>
> But personally I prefer having one "right" repo in the ASF I could trust.
> Additional repos somewhere else (like on Github) could "just help".
>
> (If working with Git - would Gerrit a good candidate?)
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Antoine Levy Lambert [mailto:antoine@gmx.de]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 02:18
> > An: Ant Developers List
> > Betreff: Re: Hoped for advantages of migrating to git
> >
> > Matt, Jesse,
> >
> > I think that both of you are basically saying that accepting pull
> > requests entered in github is going to be more manual work, including
> > more command line work, in the case of a migration to git-wip-
> > us.apache.org as opposed to migrating to use only github.
> >
> > I don=E2=80=99t know whether an option of using only github and not the=
 ASF
> > hosted git is acceptable for the ASF ? for the Ant committers ?
> >
> > Personally I am already glad to have seen support to migrate to git,
> > and I would not want to push something more controversial.
> >
> > While github today is a very attractive platform, it could one day
> > diverge from ASF policies or make other changes in their terms and
> > conditions that we would dislike and not be able to influence.
> >
> > There is a file
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/docs/github_team.txt
> > which links the apache user ids of committers with their github ids, I
> > wonder whether this linkage gives write access to the github mirrors of
> > Apache projects ?
> >
> > Also, while researching this I found an interesting presentation by
> > Jukka Zitting [1] and a mail message concerning Apache and Github [2]
> > and also a wiki page from the Apache Cordova project [3]
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.slideshare.net/jukka/apache-development-with-github-and-
> > travis-ci
> > [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-
> > dev/201401.mbox/%3C596FFF55-6E33-4451-93D4-75ADD6CADCED@gmail.com%3E
> > [3] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/GitWorkflow
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 6, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I mean how do you accept pull requests? You wouldn't be able to do it
> > > through GitHub. You'd have to manually pull the branch from GitHub
> > > like the name "pull request" implies. If you could commit to GitHub,
> > > then you could add a remote besides origin for GitHub, then pull from
> > > the GitHub remote, then push to the ASF remote (origin).
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6 May 2014 01:45, Stefan Bodewig <bodewig@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2014-05-06, Matt Sicker wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Git allows you to do both. You can auto-merge from GH, but I'm not
> > >>> sure how you can even get write access to ASF GH repos.
> > >>
> > >> You don't, you commit to the ASF repo and it gets mirrored.
> > >>
> > >> IIRC some projects have their own forks of the ASF mirror and accept
> > >> pull request on this fork.  They then merge changes from their fork
> > >> to the ASF repo.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not conviced I'd want to work that way, applying PRs without the
> > >> Web-UI on a local checkout of the ASF git repo works fine for me.
> > >>
> > >> Stefan
> > >>
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> > > Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
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