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From: Tim Enderling <T.Enderling@intershop.de>
To: "'Ant Developers List'" <dev@ant.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
Thread-Topic: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:09:52 +0000
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Hi,

that's great news! We will we very happy to provide you with feedback.

Best Regards,
Tim

PS: Odd thing aside: I worked on a company intern concept to modularize Ant=
 builds of software enriched with Ivy-meta data for a few months now (witho=
ut tying us to Maven). Not knowing that there was EasyAnt and working on th=
e basis of only Ant and Ivy I came to very similar conclusions regarding th=
e design. Some of the technical details are even identical! - like providin=
g paths to artifacts of a build module's dependencies in Ant paths like "ac=
me#foo.foo.properties.file" to use them in Ant imports/includes. And I alre=
ady stumbled upon the extension you brought into Ant and Ivy and was going =
to rely on them, not knowing where they actually came from. I'm very please=
d to see, that someone has shared my thoughts and brought them a lot furthe=
r :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Louis Boudart [mailto:jeanlouis.boudart@gmail.com]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2013 12:05
> To: Ant Developers List
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
>=20
> We will publish a updated documentation soon (probably tonight).
>=20
> Currently, the community is really small as prior releases was using
> patched version of Ant and Ivy (mainly to introduce missing features sur =
as
> extensionPoints in Ant, or module inheritence in Ivy). This was probably =
a
> major issue, and explain why we didn't communicate too much outside of
> ant-dev mailing list about it.
>=20
> We've made lot of work to contribute back our modifications to both tools
> and we now use official releases. In future we plan to bring more valuabl=
e
> features to both Ant and Ivy. This is one of the main reason motivating u=
s
> to enter in ASF.
> In the meantime we changed a lot of structuring stuff in easyant itself t=
o
> remain flexible and easier to use.
>=20
> This release is a huge step for the project. And it's now time to promote
> EasyAnt as a usable tool and to widen the community.
>=20
> Your feedback will be really appreciated.
>=20
>=20
> 2013/2/28 Tim Enderling <T.Enderling@intershop.de>
>=20
> > Hi,
> >
> > I didn't know that EasyAnt is still alive. EasyAnt might be exactly wha=
t
> > we are looking for in a solution to modularize our build system and
> > software. Some questions:
> >
> > Is there a more up-to-date documentation than the one at
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/history/trunk/reference.html?Fromskim=
mi
> ng through (and besides there a quite a few obvious mistakes in it)
> > it seems to refer to a release prior to 0.9.
> >
> > Also: How large is the community of EasyAnt, are there any references f=
or
> > software projects using it? (I tried to get an idea for that by searchi=
ng
> > for EasyAnt on stackoverflow, but that didn't turn out well.)
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Tim Enderling
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nicolas Lalev=E9e [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> > > Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 19:44
> > > To: Ant Developers List
> > > Subject: [VOTE] Accept EasyAnt as a subproject - take 2
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is the come back of the proposal of bringing EasyAnt under the
> > > umbrella of the Ant PMC.
> > >
> > > There were some discussion on incubator-general about the incubating
> > > hcatalog project being "graduated" under the umbrella of the Hive PMC=
.
> I
> > > think that our case is more clear and more standard regarding the ASF
> > > rules, but I'll remind here what is at stake, so there is no
> > > misunderstanding (I include myself on the potentially misunderstandin=
g
> > > people).
> > >
> > > EasyAnt code will be brought into Ant's svn tree.
> > > EasyAnt committers will become Ant committers but not part of the PMC
> > (on 5
> > > committers, 3 are already Ant ones, and 2 are part of Ant's PMC)
> > > The Ant PMC will be responsible for the code, the community, the next
> > > releases of EasyAnt.
> > >
> > > Just like for Ivy. And I like the way it worked. Further more
> considering
> > > my path, I think it is good that there is no special right management
> in
> > > svn. I started as an IvyDE committer, I ended improving myself Ivy an=
d
> > Ant.
> > >
> > > Since the last vote tentative, the activity on EasyAnt remained the
> same,
> > > somehow low but continuous, not much less than Ant developers activit=
y.
> > And
> > > lately we succeeded to get a release out.
> > >
> > > To get yourself an opinion, here are some links:
> > > - the EasyAnt project incubator page:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/easyant.html
> > > - the archive of the mailing lists
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-commits/
> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-easyant-dev/
> > > - the release
> > > http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/easyant
> > >
> > > So, should we accept EasyAnt as a subproject ?
> > > Please, cast your votes:
> > > [ ] +1, I accept
> > > [ ] +0, OK, but..
> > > [ ] -1, I disapprove, because..
> > >
> > > Nicolas
> > >
> > >
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>=20
>=20
> --
> Jean Louis Boudart
> Independent consultant
> Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/

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