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From Xavier Hanin <>
Subject Re: distribution of ivy with ant
Date Wed, 27 May 2009 08:30:50 GMT
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Steve Loughran <> wrote:

> Enis Soztutar wrote:
>> I don't know if it is discussed previously but I was wondering why ivy is
>> not included in the ant distribution. More and more projects previously
>> depending on ant start to use ivy, but the build files are cluttered with
>> ivy-download, check-ivy-antlib, etc. Technically ivy is a subproject of ant,
>> and it can be used optionally. However if they are distributed together
>> there will be several benefits:
>> 1. Out-of-the-box support for dependency management for ant
>> 2. Better integration of ivy with ant
>> 3. No more check, download and load ivy targets in build files
>> 4. Lowered entry barrier to using ivy  for existing ant users
>> 5. Exposure of ivy to more users
>> the only drawback I can think of is the extra ivy jar file in the
>> distribution.
>> Is there any plans on the roadmap?
> Now that ivy is part of Ant, it makes sense to start thinking of bundling
> the two. However, it may tie the release cycle of the faster moving item
> (ivy) to that of the slower one.

Ivy may still be released separately too, so that people wanting to upgrade
their Ivy version without waiting for a release of Ant could still do it.


> Do you think things have stabilised/slowed down enough for this? We can of
> course increase the release frequency of Ant...
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