Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ant-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44293 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2007 08:43:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Jun 2007 08:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 90321 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2007 08:43:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ant-dev-archive@ant.apache.org Received: (qmail 90282 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2007 08:43:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ant.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Ant Developers List" Reply-To: "Ant Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ant.apache.org Received: (qmail 90271 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jun 2007 08:43:44 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:43:44 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=10.0 tests=INFO_TLD,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of peter.kitt.reilly@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.170] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:43:39 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so777657uge for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:43:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CGrc0k7wreASfXVs3jnPmp6fBkyCcbgmMe/9AC87Gk0JudlK2jFgsCN5de9i53wMA5Oi6iRa7B3+KBHmh3W34NUWrkGfkWdageyoksAO3CGDYyuAhTIccvCQv4vWy3SxuxwWO0tfvApJwQNbPqeXtYm9wiuJLtRYIVooOcgkMaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gvAwCdbdJYh6adnAktvU/KZSQGrSUjcaTrbLWESKNQK85wzOUMsCgEFz7uhchmgIdmN8KbAwMgoqVCUp753nxlJyK34eh2+mCsBP+OOjl25b+9NSUihOn5KPxYNopI3LQctAyhCBpIMm+fD6N6aA2wdsBpBvIb4WrBm0i9ybMJ8= Received: by 10.82.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr5153670buc.1181896998292; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.120.12 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:43:18 +0100 From: "Peter Reilly" To: "Ant Developers List" Subject: Re: PropertyHelper thoughts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <682444.14999.qm@web55113.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/15/07, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Before I comment further below, let me add that I support breaking > PropertyHelper, I don't really think it is in use too much and if > breaking helps with getting things right, we should do it (in 1.8.x). It is used in a (small) number of projects: for example http://antxtras.sourceforge.net/AntXtras/docs/howto/overlay_subproject.html and (the now not-reachable) http://www.efanomars.net/pf (see: http://marc.info/?l=ant-dev&m=115852895204164&w=2) The follows mentions an intention to use it: http://buckminster.tigris.org/status.html I am sure that there are others. Peter > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Matt Benson wrote: > > > Whether object properties are desirable can be up for > > debate. > > We had cases in IIRC where we used code that implied that > project.getProperties() would retun a Hashtable that only contained > String values. It didn't take long before we received a Bugzilla > report since people added non-Strings to project properties via the > API. > > We may not like it, but people "abuse" the property system in that > way. > > > Finally, if any of the old-timers has any more > > information on Costin's mention of "dynamic > > properties" without my having to search the archives > > (lazy), feel free. :) > > I probably qualify as an old-timer (in several ways ;-) but I must > admit that I don't really recall what Costin was referring to, sorry. > > Stefan > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@ant.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@ant.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@ant.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@ant.apache.org