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Subject DO NOT REPLY [Bug 40175] - filesets are always sorted
Date Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:32:04 GMT
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------- Additional Comments From gudnabrsam@yahoo.com  2006-08-04 14:32 -------
(In reply to comment #6)
> hey man be quiet.
> 

I assume you were speaking to Ben (Burgess).  He is a valued member of the Ant
and wider Apache communities and it does your case no good by reacting in such a
way to him.  No one but yourself, likely, saw his response as rudeness, although
your "hey man be quiet" could hardly be construed otherwise.

> as I said I understand the reasons.
> 
> Anyway, there is no reason to be rude, we are professional workers not a street
> gang (nothing against street gangs) and if you will be polemic then:
> 
> >A set by definition has no guarentee in order.
> 
> where are those definitions?

Here is something found by a quick google of the words 'mathematics' and 'set':

    Bolzano was a philosopher and mathematician of great depth of thought.
    In 1847 he considered sets with the following definition

        an embodiment of the idea or concept which we conceive when we
        regard the arrangement of its parts as a matter of indifference. 

Additionally, a google of the words 'set' and 'equality' yields such results as
http://www.cs.odu.edu/~toida/nerzic/content/set/basics.html :

    Definition (Equality of sets): Two sets are equal if and only if they have
    the same elements.  More formally, for any sets A and B,  A = B if and only
    if x [ x A      x B ] . (ed: mathematics characters lost here)

    Thus for example {1, 2, 3} = {3, 2, 1} , that is the order of elements does
    not matter

I think these results vindicate Ben's characterization of a set as being
unordered by definition.

[SNIP]
> supposing I use filelist there is no way to use an external file that contains
> the list of files...
> 
> but I will close this useless discussion here
>

I said above that we might add an includesfile to filelist for 1.7 (which is to
be released in the near future).  Fortunately, this idea has enough merit to
stand on its own so you will be likely to have it despite your behavior here.


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