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From: Kev Jackson <foamdino@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: suggestion refactor SCM
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:02:01 +0700
To: "Ant Developers List" <dev@ant.apache.org>


On 29 Sep 2005, at 06:39, Brett Porter wrote:

> I'd also agree with that. We fully intended to make Maven2 plugins
> work as Ant tasks :)
>
> So with a wrapper,
> http://maven.apache.org/maven2/scm/maven-scm-plugin/
> these goals would become tasks and their parameters would match up
> what's on the individual pages.
>
> Thoughts?

Just a worry about dependencies.  If Ant has to rely on other code =20
from within maven for a set of maven plugins to run, we end up with a =20=

horrible interdependency (Maven needs Ant <-> Ant needs some % of =20
Maven) just to compile ant.  Could get nasty.  But I agree if the =20
work is there and the code can be taken and made common between =20
projects, why not?


(When you first replied Brett, I checked out the source in svn web =20
thingy and I saw a fair bit of codehaus imports - I personally don't =20
have any good experience (as a user) of anything from codehaus so I'm =20=

wary of that code, but you obviously have a more in depth view)

>
> - Brett
>
> On 9/29/05, Trygve Laugst=F8l <trygvis@codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 16:56 +0100, Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote:
>>
>>>> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:stevel@apache.org]
>>>>
>>>> Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But here we seem to be talking about a new family of generic =20
>>>>> tasks,
>>>>> If this works well, we could deprecate the old tasks and =20
>>>>> eventually
>>>>>
>>> in a
>>>
>>>>> couple of versions remove them.
>>>>

My thoughts were that in the future you'd download a base-ant, and =20
then depending on the SCM you use you'd download the scm-provider-=20
ant.jar

eg

base-ant1.8.jar + svn-ant.jar

Each antlib is going to be tiny compared to the amount you have to =20
download for all SCM functionality that we currently have (I'm still =20
on dial-up here so download speed and size of code is important to =20
me :) )


>>>> generic is good, provided
>>>>   -we can have a conceptual model that is consistent across all SCM
>>>> systems.
>>>>   -we can deal with extensibility through antlibs. I suppose  you'd
>>>>
>>> have
>>>

The hard part is defining a consistent interface which is applicable =20
to all SCM systems, without dropping down to lowest common denominator.


Kev
--
"In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I =20
fall out with the Abuse. The Thing! The Thing itself is the Abuse!" - =20=

Edmund Burke


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