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From Jan.Mate...@rzf.fin-nrw.de
Subject RE: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target tag to indicate hidden/internal target
Date Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:17:38 GMT
On BugZilla we discussed that with the prepending "-" of the targetnames.
So that use case can be realized.

A more complex would be something like <target
access="public|expert|private"/> 
where "public"s are listed with -projecthelp while "expert" are not. Both
can be
invoked from outside (CLI and IDEs). And "private" is not displayed with
-projecthelp
and can not be invoked (neither CLI nor IDEs).

But I don´t miss that feature ...


Jan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Weighill-Smith [mailto:phil.weighill-smith@volantis.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:10 PM
> To: Ant Developers List
> Subject: RE: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need attribute for target
> tag to indicate hidden/internal target
> 
> 
> This attribute would be rather handy for tools such as IntelliJ IDEA
> which allows the graphical display of available targets for invocation
> (within its Ant integration). It would be great if IDEA could 
> know which
> targets are "entry points" to the build file and only display 
> those for
> execution. For it to do this, the "public/private" attribute would be
> needed.
> 
> Phil Weighill-Smith
> 
> On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 17:02, Jan.Materne@rzf.fin-nrw.de wrote:
> > I don´t see the need for such an attribute. And if 
> introduced it should work
> > not only from commandline. It should work too, if invoked 
> by other java
> > applications.
> > 
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gus Heck [mailto:gus-antdev@cognition.olin.edu]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:58 PM
> > > To: Ant Developers List
> > > Subject: Re: AW: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 23397] - Need 
> attribute for target
> > > tag to indicate hidden/internal target
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In fact I would be even more interested to hear the 
> opinons of both 
> > > commiters and non-commiters :).
> > > 
> > > -Gus
> > > 
> > > Gus Heck wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What you would like would be useful to prevent the "wrong" 
> > > targets from
> > > >> being called. But I wonder whether this change would 
> not make ant
> > > >> unnecessary complex.
> > > >>  
> > > >>
> > > > The default (atribute omitted) state should behave as 
> > > always. This is 
> > > > necessary for back compatability, and to keep the learning 
> > > curve from 
> > > > getting too steep. The import task gives me the same 
> sort of worry 
> > > > about complexity, but I keep reiminding myself... You 
> don't have to 
> > > > use it if you don't want it ;). So at least from the user 
> > > side, there 
> > > > is no obligatory complexity increase. The addition of 
> > > another atribute 
> > > > in the documentation for target would be the only brain 
> drain :)...
> > > >
> > > > As for the development side, it may lead to increased 
> > > complexity if we 
> > > > add access modifiers with more complex meanings. As it is 
> > > now, however 
> > > > the only meaning of public/private is "do we reject it 
> when invoked 
> > > > from the command line" and the only time we need to 
> check that is 
> > > > already included in the patch.
> > > >
> > > > I too would be interested to hear what other commiters think.
> > > >
> > > > - Gus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
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