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From Stefan Bodewig <bode...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Bzip, tar, zip, etc
Date Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:03:21 GMT
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicolaken@apache.org> wrote:

> Now, we have asked some time back, "why not let Ant use the commons
> versions"?
> 
> Gump... blah blah blah... bootstrap... blah blah blah...

Gump is completely unimportant here.

Ant must be able to bootstrap itself without any additional libraries
(apart from an XML parser) is a long-standing requirement for Ant.  As
using <jar> is part of the bootstrap process and <jar> requires the
zip classes, we have a problem here, that may be solvable by some CVS
tricks.

> Now that they have been put in commons for some time, it's quite
> evident that there, they are dead.

As you noted, the code has moved around, but not the supporting
community.  The move from Ant to Avalon has happened without involving
the Ant community at large (some may have noticed it, but mostly by
accident).  The Avalon community has never trieds to support them and
passed them on to commons.  At least that's my view of history 8-)

What's probably more important is that this code doesn't have a real
community at all.  Those packages have been left more or less
unmodified since they've been imported.  There is no active
development of that code.

So they may be useful as classes that can get reused by others, but
they don't have a community to carry them as an independent component
IMHO.

> So, the solution seems simply to make these separate jars and make
> them available also separately from Ant.

No problem with that.

Stefan

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