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From Costin Manolache <>
Subject RE: [embed] Standalone release ?
Date Thu, 26 Sep 2002 06:06:44 GMT
Dominique Devienne wrote:

> Sorry to barge in in this thread, but it worries me when Ant (or one of
> its potential successor and/or extension) starts depending on other
> projects (from Jakarta or elsewhere), themselves built using Ant...

I agree. And that's one of the problems we are trying to solve - 
by moving tasks into separate modules. 

[embed] does have some tasks that depend on external projects - 
used mostly as proof-of-concept and testing. If/after the hook
they depend on are accepted, those tasks can be either moved to
the external projects ( contributed to jxpath, velocity ) or 
built as standalone modules.

In the end we should have a minimal ant core ( including possibly the 
current set of core tasks ), and several mostly independent modules.
Various 'hooks' can be plugged using discovery ( like different
xml processors - like embed or another flavor ).


> I personally think the Ant core engine should be stand-alone, and thus
> built completely in isolation. Then additional layers depending on other
> projects could be built in the proper order, hopefully through some kind
> of Ant-lib mechanism. That entails that the dependent projects can be
> built using a partial Ant though.
> Or am I just missing something? --DD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donald []
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:31 PM
> To: Ant Developers List
> Subject: Re: [embed] Standalone release ?
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 20:28, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Costin Manolache <> wrote:
>> > I have gump working ( on my own system ), and so far there are no
>> > differences. I'll check with Sam about adding them to one of the
>> > boxes after I find a clean way to do it ( right now I hacked some
>> > files ).
>> This is how Peter enabled the Myrmidon builds as well ;-)
>> Basically he added a parameter to the stylesheet that creates the
>> build script, should be straight forward reuse that.
>> I don't think you've addressed "bootstrap Myrmidon and then build
>> everything against the new Myrmidon version" with that, Peter?
> I had a separate profile to do it. Basically I bootstrapped ant1.x then
> built
> all the required libs (ie bootstrap-excalibur-tar and
> bootstrap-excalibur-i18n), built myrmidon and then rebuilt all the libs
> (including excalibur-i18n and other bootstrap jars).
> There was a bit of duplicity but seemed to work well.


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