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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:59:47 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jose=20Alberto=20Fernandez?= <j_a_fernandez@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Vetoes are void? was Re: [VOTE] target-less build files -
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Constin, calm down. I am on your side. :-)

 --- costinm@covalent.net wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul
2002, Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote:
> 
> > Actually, there even was an implementation of this
> > declarators, which provided exactly this, but was
> > vetoed (I forget by whom). It worked quite well,
> we
> > can bring it back if people like. ;-)
> 
> Make a formal proposal, put it to vote - and if it
> gets
> a majority of votes it can be implemented. The
> implementation
> can be vetoed, the proposal is a majority vote.
> 
> We do have a majority of votes on top-level tasks
> and
> targetless tasks - but that doesn't mean <init> or
> any other proposal that gets majority can't be
> implemented
> and used.
> 
> I'm -0 on <init> and I'll probably not vote against
> any other 
> style. If 3 commiters want to use a certain style
> and that
> doesn't affect me - I see no reason to vote against.
> 
> 
> > Why is it so much more dificult to add:
> > <target name="main">
> > </target>
> > 
> > Adding those two lines around a target-less list
> of
> > actions does not seem too more dificult to me.
> > Is there some specific horrible escenario that you
> are
> > concern about?
> 
> There is nothing wrong with doing that, and nothing
> stops
> you ( or anyone ) from doing exactly that. 
> 
> If you think that this should be the only solution -
> put
> this to a vote, get the majority to revert the vote
> on 
> targetless - and we'll live with that. 
> 
> We can fight forever over taste and preferences over
> a 
> style or another - and I think we should be as open
> as 
> possible with other's preference. Even if something
> is turned down by majority, if enough commiters want
> something we should at least provide some hooks to
> allow them to do that outside of ant.
> 
> 
> Costin
> 
> 
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