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From Martin van den Bemt <mll...@mvdb.net>
Subject Re: Death of a mutant ...
Date Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:29:56 GMT
There are scenarios I can think of that it is still needed, but people
(or mankind ;) can just still use the ant 1.5 version, for those
projects... If there are bugs, you can always leave it open for bug
fixes.

Mvgr,
Martin van den Bemt


On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 23:17, Patrick (Gus) Heck wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >There is a limit to wrapping. My goal is not to create a wrapper for each
> >thing that is worth it and end up with a copy of the JDK 1.2+ in the Ant
> >repository. To be clear for reading the implementation version of a package
> >I prefer to use the JDK 1.2 method and do it by reflection rather than
> >creating hundred lines of code that does the same thing and that wiill be
> >used by maybe one lost person with JDK 1.1 among 100,000 users.
> >
> >As you  agreed earlier, the less code we have the better we feel.
> >
> >>Well, if everyone else feels 1.1 shouldn't be supported - it only takes
> >>a vote to remove that requirement. Even for 1.6 - the commiters set
> >>the rules. I won't -1 it.
> >>
> 
> I have never quite understood the need to make ant run under 1.1. I 
> certainly think one should be able to write things that target a 1.1 
> platform, and use ant to build them, but why are we so worried about 
> allowing people to develop stuff in an outdated environment? Yeah 
> someone here said their zarus only had 1.1 but is building with ant on a 
> zarus really valuable, or just kinda neat to do? Wouldn't it be better 
> to build for the zarus on your dual Athlon MP machine? What environments 
> don't have a 1.2+ compiler available for people to build thier ant with 
> that are really important _development_ platforms?
> 
> I also have been wondering recently what it is that ant defines as out 
> of scope. I am currently using it to "build" a website from a cvs 
> repository on a regular basis. The website has lots of code on it that 
> also gets built so this is convenient, but I kinda wonder if it isn't 
> stretching the purpose of Ant.
> 
> A specialized tool is usually much more efficient than a generalized 
> tool, but it does fewer things. Swiss Army knives are really nice when 
> you don't know what you will need, but a real philips screwdriver, or a 
> power screwdriver is more efficient for driving philips head screws 
> because it doesn't try to include can-opener and whittling functionality 
> too.
> 
> Gus
> 
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