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From Peter Donald <pe...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Bug 7153] - Need additional Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Tasks
Date Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:20:57 GMT
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:46, Conor MacNeill wrote:
> > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@apache.org]
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:42, Conor MacNeill wrote:
> > > > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@apache.org]
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > put bluntly - if you want ant-dev to behave like that then stop
> > > > complaing and
> > > > start doing.
> > >
> > > LOL. The two oldest bugs on BugZilla are for SignJar. The
> >
> > oldest of the two
> >
> > > has been there for over a year. Since you originally wrote this task, I
> > > wonder if you have ever thought of starting doing?
> >
> > Sorry I must have missed it - can you point out to me where I was
> > complaining
> > that patches aren't getting applied?
>
> Did I say that? You are exhorting people to "start doing". I just thought
> it would be good if all committers, including your good self, started doing
> too. Perhaps you have a different opinion.

ahh ... I am not sure insulting people is good practice if you want them to 
do things on a volunteer basis. I can understand that you are bitter but it 
is best to keep this out of the mailing list. If you look the statement you 
responded to "if you want ant-dev to behave like that then stop complaing and 
start doing" then you will see that it has an if precondition...

Personally I don't think ant-dev is broken - it has always been this way and 
will continue to be this way with the ant1.x strain. I don't think any amount 
of doing will fix it due to the centralized control structures. 

The way I think it will be fixed is via breaking things down into separate 
projects and giving more power to people outside ant-dev - which is precisely 
what I am doing at the moment via Ant2. Hopefully by the end of this month we 
will have all the ant1.x projects building and then by June we may be ready 
for an alpha release if all goes well. 

-- 
Cheers,

Pete

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"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries of life 
disappear and life stands explained." -Mark Twain
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