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From "Steve Loughran" <>
Subject Re: [Bug 7153] - Need additional Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Tasks
Date Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:59:03 GMT

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From: "Jose Alberto Fernandez" <>
To: "Ant Developers List" <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Bug 7153] - Need additional Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Tasks

>We already do this. Our ANT binaries are under CVS.
>But since I am not the only one touching the buildfile, I cannot predict
>someone will try to use something and fail, and come and complain they
>their time trying to use this and that and not being able.

I would recommend getting all the bits you think you need and then some,
(certainly xerces, net components, the bsf framework) and build a fairly
complete optional set

> there is no need to redist a nightly build on a daily basis, nor any need
> for >1 person to get and build the source.
> the reason for doing it locally is that there will always be changes with
> your version and the ant version. Why, even us committers often do that,
> working with something for a while till we are happy enough to share it.

>Yes, as I said, personally (at home) I build my own ANT. But at work I do
>want to share for the project a local copy that may be spiced too much.
>If I go with my local patch and the patch gets rejected (for good reasons)
>then I am stuck maintaing my own version.

The work version of ant I go with is usually more minimally spiced; for my
last project we just had some changes to delete and ftp in there; changes
that eventually went into ant 1.4.

the smaller your divergence from the codebase, the easier to keep up to date

One issue that does keep cropping up is that our nightly builds are too
incomplete. How can we go about doing more complete ones? Should I be doing
a fairly complete weekly build and uploading it somewhere, the way stephane
does with the audits?

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