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From "Erik Hatcher" <jakarta-...@ehatchersolutions.com>
Subject Re: question and idea.
Date Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:03:51 GMT
The philosophical(?) (and rhetorical :) question is: why should Ant be tied
to XML?  Ant is really the engine that processes the build DAG and its
associated tasks.  How it got into that representation is not really that
relevant and there are certainly plenty of interesting and practical
possibilities that would come from such decoupling.

Having a build.xml is still an important practical thing so that builds are
portable rather than a build description being tied back to an IDE directly
or some other mechanism. And becoming decoupled completely from build.xml
opens up some good doors and some pitfalls with IDE's possibly wanting to
drive Ant's engine without a build.xml (sure, they could do it now, but its
not really very easy).

    Erik

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn A. McAllister" <glenn@somanetworks.com>
To: "Ant Developers List" <ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org>;
<jonl@muppetlabs.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: question and idea.


> On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Jonathan Locke wrote:
>
> >
> > yeah, this is what i was thinking of.  i think in a technical
> > sense that it's a tree because the text is represented by special
> > PCDATA nodes.  but i don't think of it as a tree...  my bad.
>
> My point extactly.  A DOM representation of a document is a tree.
>
> > --- Scott Sanders <ssanders@nextance.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <smart-assed-comment>
> > >   Thought I would add the token smart-assed comment here:
> > >
> > >   <foo/>  is a weel-formed, non-tree XML document.  ;-)
> > > </smart-assed-comment>
>
> The PCDATA is a node in the tree.  Read the spec.
>
> As Eric mentions later, its a interesting proof of concept to decouple Ant
> from the filesystem.  However, what I'm having problems with is this idea
> of replacing the XML format for Ant.  And if I've missed the point
> completely, my appologies.
>
> So, at this point, I'm going to back off and say "Its an interesting idea
> and I'd be interested in seeing the results," and leave it at that.  I've
> stated my $0.02.
>
> Here's hoping that isn't too Jon-like an answer. :)
>
> Glenn McAllister
> SOMA Networks, Inc.
>
>
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