Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-ant-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 91575 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 10:00:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 10:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18016 invoked by uid 97); 26 Nov 2001 10:00:27 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 17985 invoked by uid 97); 26 Nov 2001 10:00:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Ant Developers List" Reply-To: "Ant Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 17971 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 10:00:25 -0000 X-Authentication-Warning: bodewig.bost.de: bodewig set sender to bodewig@apache.org using -f To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: removing deprecated stuff References: <9B3E950CB293D411ADF4009027B0A4D20290D117@maileu.imediation.com> <200111222008.fAMK8eJ30264@mail008.syd.optusnet.com.au> <200111240908.fAO98hD17180@mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au> From: Stefan Bodewig Date: 26 Nov 2001 10:54:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: Peter Donald's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:39:25 +1100" Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Peter Donald wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:26, Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Peter Donald wrote: >> > ... and we can't get them to upgrade their builds. >> >> why not? Even if you supply them with a patch to their build file? > > we don't always know who "they" are. I was talking about OpenEJB where I think you know "them" quite well 8-) > The people I am thinking of don't want to upgrade because they > "experienced" the early ant days. Every week would bring new > developments to ant ... and break the old build files and it was a > constant battle to keep your build working - remember those days ? Sorry, I've been there these days and I've often heard this, but it simply is not true - The only real changes that had an impact on your builds was (1) the removal of the "init" target and (2) making properties immutable. After that - and long before we released Ant 1.1 - it has been quite stable. > Anyways the philosophy is basically - why "fix" something that isn't > broken? Well, Ant 0.3.1 is broken 8-) Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: