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From "Jose Alberto Fernandez" <j_a_fernan...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: removing deprecated stuff
Date Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:31:59 GMT
Why don't we just provide a nice XSLT that converts from the deprecated stuff
to the new correct stuff. That would acomplish several things:

1) Make people move.
2) Prove that we still provide all the expected functionality.
3) Serve as a test for the ANT2 upgrade procedure.

With this in mind, I would suggest providing an upgrader buildfile so that people can do:

    ant -f $ANT_HOME/upgrade.xml -Dfile=build.xml

and presto, you get your build.xml file upgraded without any fuzz.

And we can get rid of all the deprecated stuff. We should convert even the
deprecated things that we do not remove, like "warfile" --> "file" and so on.

Thoughts,

Jose Alberto

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephane Bailliez" <sbailliez@imediation.com>
To: "Ant Developers List" <ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: removing deprecated stuff


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@apache.org]
> 
> > aesthetically it may be a nice idea but I can't see an 
> > advantage from an 
> > engineering perspective. If feature X (copydir, deltree, 
> > whatever) is not 
> > costing us anything to maintain then why remove it? There is 
> > still people 
> > using old versions of ant for one reason or another. Some 
> > have just never 
> > seen a reason to upgrade. When they do upgrade I would like 
> > things to work as 
> > much as possible.
> 
> I understand, but you are shooting yourself in the foot if you do not
> upgrade incrementally.
> If you don't do it, you perfectly know the risks.
> The more you wait, the larger the gap, the greatest the pain. :-)
> 
> > Unless feature X happens to be restricting further innovation 
> > in some fashion then why don't we just keep it ?
> 
> Because they should not be used anymore, we have been telling it for some
> time and the definition of deprecated is crystal-clear :)
> 
> > Remember not everyone lives in internet time and may still be 
> > using older 
> > versions of ant. Besides we may end up braking gump because 
> > some of the 
> > projects run by gump (ie some exolab ones) still use old 
> > versions of ant and 
> > I think that is enough of an issue to make breaking backwards 
> > compatability for no reason at all truly suck.
> 
> Then we must ask Exolab to upgrade their build...
> but I don't believe the projects we depend from are so out of date as AdaptX
> was.
> 
> Stephane
> 
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