Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-ant-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 76196 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2001 13:23:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 76184 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 13:23:58 -0000 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Reminder: [SUBMIT] Attr, a chmod equivalent for Windows To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.07a May 14, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Sam Ruby" Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:20:13 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D04NM301/04/M/IBM(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 08/03/2001 09:22:41 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N Martin van den Bemt wrote: > > maby you don't have that problem, since you have commit access. If invested > time isn't "appreciated" then I don't invest any more time, unless I am > convinced something actually happens with it.. (even a -1 would be ok for > me..). That is excpected feedback for projects that are actively asking to > get involved.. > > If you say it isn't a waste of time, please let me know how getting stuff > into ant actually works (not talking about patches..), so we are clear on > that (1 month before going beta we look at all new submissions or something > like that?). Some historical perspective. Just over a year ago (15 Jun 2000 to be exact), Conor MacNeill was added as a committer to jakarta-ant. He was nominated by me, and quickly ratified. The preceeding that point involved a significant period of time where I was the primary committer of patches, and quite a number of patches were not getting the attention they deserved. What made Conor stand out was the combination of patience and persistence he demonstrated, as well as a mix of good humor, good ideas, and respect for others who were, after all, volunteers. There's no magic here. You give up, and undoutably somebody else will fill in the gap. You persist, and you will have a direct say in the evolution of Ant. You persist long enough, then you to can be the subject of countless e-mails commenting on your lack of responsiveness. ;-) - Sam Ruby