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From "Joshua Davis" <jsd2...@bellatlantic.net>
Subject RE: Seen this?
Date Tue, 02 Jan 2001 13:25:05 GMT

In the interests of education... Maybe there is some resource that concisely
describes why the declarative approach can be better in some cases (ANT in
particular)?  Maybe JDD can add a link to it in his ANT 2.0 proposal?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:donaldp@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 9:06 PM
> To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Cc: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Seen this?
>
> At 08:56  29/12/00 -0500, Jason Rosenberg wrote:
> >Number of times it refers to Ant as a scripting language: 8
> >
> >Yes people, Ant is a scripting language, not some sort of
> >pure object oriented data description language.
>
> err ... ahhh ... maybe you should go back to comp-sci 101 as data
> description languages are often referred to as scripts ... which would
> imply that DDLs are scripting languages.... fancy that ! The difference is
> with type os language; declarative vs procedural. We do have some
> procedural elements (ant-call) but that will soon become declarative if we
> make templating a preprocess or as part of the language.
>
> >Can we start
> >acknowledging that, so that we can then augment and improve
> >the language in a sensible way?
>
> Perhaps you should try to do just a little bit of research on subject.
> There is a lot of details on this matter in archives and a lot of good
> reasons why adding procedural logic is an idiotic idea. If you want
> procedural logic there is plenty of other tools out there or you are free
> to fork ant and do it yourself. There are people who have already provided
> procedural elements (selection via case/if) that may help you. However if
> you want anyone to actually listen to you it would be good if you tried to
> educate yourself.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
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