Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 55202 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2000 17:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO odo.i2.com) (64.26.226.21) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 17:11:54 -0000 Received: from i2.com ([10.21.69.25]) by odo.i2.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA02147 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:10:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A3E453E.14137AC6@i2.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:11:26 -0600 From: Ken Wood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: AW: Whoa Bessie... Was -- Re: [Proposal] AntFarm References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N How about the good old fashioned way: 1. A requirements specification that spells out WHAT the software must do, without ANY indication of how it should be done. 2. A design document that specifies HOW the requirements will be met via a proposed implementation. I suspect the reason we have so many proposals in the form of code is that code is fun to write. Specifications and design documents are NOT fun to write. But, they are a better way communicate a software effort than trying to compare multiple proposals in the form of different codebases. Christoph Wilhelms wrote: > > Sorry, but I have to give a short statement from the view of an Ant user and > "extender"! > > I think it is very simple what we all want and what we dont want. Please > correct me if I am wrong! > > We want: > > * Just ONE Ant! > * A reliable running, fast, innovative Ant (just like Ant 1.2 is now) > * An Ant beeing supported, discussed and improved (just like it has been up > to now) > * Many Ant-Developers that work TOGETHER (on the current and future > versions) > * A clear line! We want to see in wich direction Ant is going! This is > mandatory > for everyone who wants to EXTEND core ant like ANTIDOTE or VAJ-Integration > or > JBuilder-Integration etc. > > We don't want: > > * Competetive Ant-Developers ( ;-) ) > * Many different Ants (Myrmidons, Antfarms, Anteaters, etc.) parallel! Don't > misunderstand > me: the proposals are on one hand good for improving Ant - on the other > hand there is > NOBODY who can compare the proposals with each other (lack of time). IMHO > at the moment > the proposals INTERUPT Ant development-process! >