Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 89172 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2000 02:50:30 -0000 Received: from e23.nc.us.ibm.com (32.97.136.229) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2000 02:50:30 -0000 Received: from southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.209]) by e23.nc.us.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22750; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:21:14 -0600 Received: from d04nm301.raleigh.ibm.com (d04nm201.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.38]) by southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.8m3/NCO v4.95) with ESMTP id VAA46676; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:50:10 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: cvs commit: jakarta-ant/lib - New directory To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Cc: pmc@jakarta.apache.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Sam Ruby" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:50:24 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D04NM301/04/M/IBM(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 11/27/2000 09:50:29 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jon Stevens wrote. > > I'm tired of arguing about this issue. For now the summary is > that .jar's in CVS are a good thing. Once someone decides to > implement JPAN, I will remove the .jar's. I too am tired. For example, I know from past experience that as a committer if I were to -1 this, my objection would be ignored. Furthermore, as a PMC member, I know that if I were to raise the issue there it would be ignored. Furthermore, I started to build this exact same JPAN type of thing. (Though to be fair - I was focusing more on the open source part of the equation, downloading the source and building a consistent set of binaries - a process that makes painfully obvious the ramifications of every projecting inserting their own set of binaries into the mix). I quickly came to the conclusion that I would need the cooperation of virtually every project to get this off the ground. Very few projects seemed concerned when I indicated that they will be incompatible to upcoming Ant or Xerces versions. If you are interested in seeing the results - you can check out http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jakarta/buildlog.html. It has atrophied but as of tonight will again be running with current data (sometime on November 16th, somebody decided to disconnect my LAN port, so today I moved the equipment into another building).