Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 33314 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2000 04:02:45 -0000 Received: from postbox.viquity.com (HELO dcsrv0.ecom2ecom.com) (63.198.126.137) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Nov 2000 04:02:45 -0000 Received: by dcsrv0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:01:37 -0800 Message-ID: <635802DA64D4D31190D500508B9B04104E0F96@dcsrv0> From: Jose Alberto Fernandez To: "'ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org'" Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:01:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N My point is that there should not be (1), (2), ... Just the message about using . The other ones are irrelevant for real users which are not modifying the code. And if you are modifying the code, then it should be obvious to you what to do. Jose Alberto > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 2:10 PM > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > Which message? Number 2 is use taskdef to define your task. > > Erik > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:JFernandez@viquity.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:42 AM > > To: 'ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org' > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > I always thought that this message was kind of funny. > > Is like a Java program saying ClassNotFoundException: > > "You may need to revise your classpath, or reinstall > > your JVM to a JDK that contains this class or see > > if you made a typo in the class name". > > > > I think we should just say: 'Unknown task "XYZ" > > use to define it before using it'. > > > > Jose Alberto > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:21 PM > > > To: Conor MacNeill; ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:conor@ebinteractive.com.au] > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:55 PM > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org; emeade@geekfarm.org > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik, > > > > > > > > Thanks for re-sending that. I did apply this change locally > > > but I haven't > > > > committed yet for two reasons: > > > > > > > > 1. The message is now getting pretty long and I thought perhaps > > > > it should be > > > > formatted rather than one huge line > > > > > > Cool, I wanted to do that, but wasn't sure how it would go > > > over. Do you > > > think \n or \n\t is enough? > > > > > > > 2. I am not sure of the target audience of this message. If we > > > > are targeting > > > > users who download a binary distribution, then telling them to > > > > bootstrap/build is not that cool since those scripts are > > > not even included > > > > in the binary distribution. > > > > > > Good point, one thing I was thinking of doing was checking to > > > see if the > > > task was optional, but the list where valid tasks are > storied doesn't > > > differenciate between optional and built in. I was also > > > thinking I could > > > parse the properties file, but I wasn't sure how that would > > > go over either. > > > > > > For the bootstrap we could use ANT_HOME and see if bootstrap > > > is in there... > > > that assumes developers don't move it though, then bin users > > > wouldn't even > > > see it. > > > > > > > It is not a big deal, but I thought we should just think about > > > > who we expect > > > > to get this message and under what circumstances. What > do you think? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Conor MacNeill > > > > conor@cortexebusiness.com.au > > > > Cortex eBusiness > > > > http://www.cortexebusiness.com.au > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > > > > > Sent: Friday, 10 November 2000 14:22 > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm reposting this as it didn't get commited, folks still ask > > > > > about it. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:12 PM > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now reads: if this is an optional task put the > > > optional.jar in the > > > > > > lib directory of your ant installation (ANT_HOME) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:conor@m64.com] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:42 AM > > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org; emeade@geekfarm.org > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it would be better to say "put optional.jar in the > > > > > lib directory > > > > > > > of your ant installation (ANT_HOME)" > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 25 October 2000 15:13 > > > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Added in putting option.jar in your classpath > if it is an > > > > > > > > optional task. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Erik Meade [mailto:emeade@geekfarm.org] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:31 PM > > > > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Added in Nico's suggestion. > > > > > > > > > Erik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Erik Meade > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably, at the risk of appearing > uninformed... what is > > > > > > > > > > involved with using taskdef to declare you > task? I've > > > > > > > > > > created new tasks, so my guess is I've done > this, but > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure I know what I did... I'll send another > > > > > > > > > > patch tonight or tomorrow and add it in > above "add the > > > > > > > > > > task to the defaults.properties" as > suggested by Stefan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik Meade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: Nico Seessle > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > To: ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Erik Meade" > > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 6:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [PATCH] UnknownElement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought it may be a good idea to list some > > > > solutions with > > > > > > > > > > > > the maybeConfigure build exception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik Meade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "1 execute bin/bootstrap. > > > > > > > > > > > 2 add the task to the defaults.properties." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't this missing "3 use taskdef to declare > > > your task?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >