Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact ant-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list ant-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 46349 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2000 19:16:52 -0000 Received: from hplb.hpl.hp.com (192.6.10.2) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Oct 2000 19:16:52 -0000 Received: from snowy.hpl.hp.com (snowy.hpl.hp.com [15.144.94.243]) by hplb.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3/8.8.6 HPLabs Bristol Relay) with ESMTP id UAA09692 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:16:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from cvwls095 ([15.0.214.40]) by snowy.hpl.hp.com with SMTP (8.7.6/8.7.3 SMKit7.0) id UAA01756 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:16:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <027e01c0386e$ebf53e90$28d6000f@cvwls095> From: "Steve Loughran" To: References: Subject: Re: New doc format and organization Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:17:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Hello all. > > I've been working over the docs a bit to reorganize them. The current > format of one bit index.html file is getting too unwieldy. The next > logical step is to use framesets with some sort of navigation pane. > Unfortunately, I don't have time to build one that will work across > multiple browsers before our ship date. So, I've gone for a more LDP > format that has a primary table of contents, with navigation links from one > page to the next. > > Now, I don't like this format as it introduces some maintenance headaches. > However, in the end it is probably easier to read (better for the user), > and it also gets us ready for when task docs get dynamically contributed. I do agree that the docs need restructuring, but I am not convinced that this new prototype is ideal. -I quite like the tasks being in one file; my bookmark into the ant docs is to index.html#tasks from whence I can click or scroll down to the task I want. The unified style helps browsing and printing. -If we could move to a structure which split the introduction and overview pages from the tasks, and had some navbar alongside the tasks menu we could get both easy navigation and a scrollable/printable file -CSS usually works for defining a basic style sheet from a directory relative URL; it is the fancy stuff ; DHTML, scripting and even DIV/SPAN behaviour that varies across browsers. Keep it simple and most browsers are happy. -also I can see that you've used frontpage as the links assume new_ant_docs is the filename. I would warn everyone against FP for that and case sensitivity reasons. Really dynamically generated docs are the way to go; if each task was described in an individual file with no navigation/structure around it then the one task per file document tree could be generated as easily as the unified fileset; merging into a unified help file is also nominally possible. Kind of an ant 2.0 feature though. -steve