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From "Chris Todd" <>
Subject spartan docs? hardly WAS: RE: Some Thoughts on Ant 1.3 and 2.0
Date Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:33:20 GMT
Actually, if you print out the Ant manual, you'll find it is 76 pages long.
I hardly consider that spartan.  In fact, for an open source project (which
are notoriously bad at documentation, for obvious reasons), I think the Ant
manual is outstanding, and I offer many kudos to the Ant developers for
taking the time to put together such good docs.

As for the Apache FAQ being down, I have to agree with you.  I wish the
Apache folks would just go back to using the Faq-o-matic until Jyve is

Sincerest regards,
Chris Todd
Software Engineer
Alabanza Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: Some Thoughts on Ant 1.3 and 2.0

spartan doc + no faq = frustrated user
(enough said?)
-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Holt []
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: Some Thoughts on Ant 1.3 and 2.0

--- Samuel R Listopad II <> wrote:
> I think it would be good to have a property like output set to
> '/usr/${currUser}'
> and then when using ${output} and currUser set to alice it would resolve
> to /usr/alice rather than the
> /usr/${currUser} that it is now (if output defined before currUser).
Why not just use ${}? It's available at startup.
One thing it might be good to do, is to have a list of the "built-in"
properties -- maybe in an appendix to the doc. I just modified my ant
wrapper script to not pass any defines on the java command-line, then ran
ant with -debug on a build-file that has nothing but a <project> tag,
piped it to "grep Setting project property:" and captured all the
properties that are set without my having anything to do with setting
One thing I found interesting (and hadn't realized before this) is that
basedir is set without my having set it in <project>. Also, it doesn't
look like the project name is ever assigned to a property.
Another candidate for an appendix would be to pipe the debug to a grep on
"+User task:" -- for example, I've never seen anything in the doc about
<compileTask> (although I might remember having seen some mail about it
once, not sure, need to check the archive).


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