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From Benjamin Young <>
Subject Re: (re)connecting
Date Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:31 GMT
Hey Rebecca!

First, apologies for the super slow reply!

Second, determining what to do with ye olde Annotator.js stuff is part of what we (as a group)
need to discuss and decide.

FWIW, Randall and I (the two most active here at present) are leaning toward starting fresh
using his dom-anchor libraries:

The goal would still be to make the annotation *data* output from Annotator.js consumable
by this new thing, but it's unlikely the plugin architecture (or similar) would work the same.

Our hope is to keep this new thing as minimal as possible, and allow it to serve more purposes
via other frameworks and systems--trying to avoid building yet-another-JS-framework-thing.

Additionally, the copyright of the old code is owned by multiple people, and the plugin ecosystem
is also very mixed. However, it looks like the Readux addons are fabulously Apache License
2.0 licensed. ^_^

We don't want to leave the Annotator.js-based projects behind--quiet the opposite--but we
do need to have a solid foundation to build from...and it's not clear that Annotator.js 2.0
is that.

Happy to hear your thoughts regardless! :)

Thanks for being here!



From: Rebecca Sutton Koeser <>
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:26:22 AM
Subject: (re)connecting

Hello, all!  And happy new year!

How is the incubation going?

I'm (re)connecting with the group after expressing initial interest and
then never joining the new listserv due to a change in positions.  I
wasn't sure if I would have any time to be involved with the annotation
work or it would make sense with my new job.  But, as it turns out, I'm
now working on two different scholarly projects which are working with

These projects are working to model, document, and investigate
historical annotations and marginalia in existing rare book volumes,
rather than creating new annotations, but I think that work is still
something that can be done within the realm of the annotator project.
(And if it is an effective approach, there is considerable potential for
reusing it with other materials and projects.)

I've been considering re-using some of the annotation work I did on the
Readux project I worked on while I was at Emory University (project
site:; codebase:  Specifically, I was
thinking of generalizing the annotator store I built into Readux to make
it a reusable django application, and re-using some of the annotator 2.x
plugins we developed for Readux (see the list here:

My main question at this point: is it a bad idea to continue working
with the annotator.js 2.x code and plugins?  It would be helpful if
someone could someone clarify the relationship between the new apache
annotator and the existing annotator.js codebase. (I've looked over the
emails on the listserv archives, but still don't have a good sense of
this.)   If the new apache annotator project results in a different
approach or completely new codebase, would there be some way to
eventually migrate from the annotator.js stack to the new
implementation?  For what it's worth, if we do go down this road of
re-using the Readux code and annotator plugins, I think it's reasonable
to expect that I would have some time to contribute to the main
annotator codebase as well.

Look forward to hearing what you think.


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