Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D46B200B6A for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:08:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 1BD9F160AB3; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 61EBB160A87 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 77699 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2016 21:08:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@airflow.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@airflow.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@airflow.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77683 invoked by uid 99); 22 Aug 2016 21:08:10 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 630F91A5495 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.821 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sf8WH08Ijo4q for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ua0-f177.google.com (mail-ua0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id A02E45F46E for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 97so211808604uav.3 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bY9slLKNLNvWsr3z4caAAFRZaztwPd+I+UNRRCMEIbI=; b=gQMD290UJ/IfgOIkOlUEw3W0UnvCK/2dnxuvVBdFfAZTZtzcsNR0KZiUuIziNYGBxs xZvdwkP5m/RTyEIrLdwHUUMMXFdSDXsKplorNCxcx7xNiHswlNuiuCD/m+SLGMRy9LYP /vybI9BJTijaQ/2b8wL2mBl6G2FC1GvjcwqZ8gPcT5e7xUGfmcCvFg/1DJugeVvscBXv VHJAdL6+C53oDLZjvRP+uPgKx9Xo/usVWnpVAd4IinEYlVYRU6XRMM+92DM1acpanAb9 svlMSwyxBnAhESpETYG9tucwjgROB5ahwDycQbdipLg7tmWbioYW3zcPn210Az54fUFy SHQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bY9slLKNLNvWsr3z4caAAFRZaztwPd+I+UNRRCMEIbI=; b=Q7PU3UEu7IjL7uTUfdomxZK4fH8ixSaJt+ZqiAQxwVOAIRL81+R7eKITDuoIV+XYSZ LwPYhJcetTIOF7HxtPPS7+o9Fc1GHIwDGxNBYdCDY8mE9EVujTZ+Ji40KPgZvfZY/+GU wvtd7jMBYaToHWntc1Bi1iPqatYamZ9EPDos3VGxTExYErPViSbUtRdQbmP60iWv1c42 0CRM8JP/GD4+o3BP1Uv/ZYvF0WhaRp2nFBJ9TpegAYOYqwoCA++k3B9zzvUFmN4iMtCO JFQ25mmoZZc7qihRF2DJUt5LjwhwJQS0EiodzqVslm3gDMNBuy0Y6WPrVzjxx3zp1uw7 Ty2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousRq/oVzM2vpxNN44oIjtmatc/cx2fOdHWxl4C9zRmTu4fFM0EwsJ0pCyM6RwvUh3Pa06F0h7PpOeiWrA== X-Received: by 10.31.15.139 with SMTP id 133mr8040621vkp.37.1471900081346; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.65.226 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jakob Homan Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:07:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Private channel being used for discussion on gitter To: dev@airflow.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 archived-at: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:08:13 -0000 Gitter is fine and the public channel I linked to in the original email is fine. It's functionally no different than IRC. The channel just has to be open for any one rather than invite only. -Jakob On 22 August 2016 at 13:10, Maxime Beauchemin wrote: > I think Gitter must have just transferred along as we moved the repo. I'm > personally open to using IRC. > > Max > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bolke de Bruin wrote: > >> Also who is the owner of this room? It seems created by Apache so they >> (INFRA?) can set it to public? Logs will be public then by default. >> >> Wasn't there some discussion on a more relaxed requirement of this >> happening on ASF infrastructure? >> >> Bolke. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 22 aug. 2016, at 20:29, Jakob Homan wrote: >> > >> > Hey all- >> > Apparently there is a private channel being used for project >> > discussion on gitter (the archive would be here: >> > https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/Airflow_ >> committers/archives/all, >> > similar to the public archive of the regular gitter channel: >> > https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/archives/all), titled >> > "Airflow_committers." >> > >> > As has been discussed before, all non-PMC level ASF communication >> > *has* to be in a public accessible forum (preferably that is archived >> > to an ASF list). Even if well intentioned, these channels are >> > exclusionary and absolutely verboten per ASF. >> > >> > We need to open or shut that channel down and make sure we note this >> > on the next IPMC report... >> > >> > -Jakob >>