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From Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Private channel being used for discussion on gitter
Date Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:26:24 GMT
Unfortunately chat rooms cannot be made public/private after creation. See 
https://github.com/gitterHQ/gitter/issues/676

I have created #airflow and #airflow-dev on freenode.net (IRC). I have requested
logging with botbot.me (https://botbot.me), although that may take a while to come 
through. Links to the logs will updated once available.

If you are behind a corporate firewall or don’t have an irc client you can try this:

Dev:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#airflow-dev

Users:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#airflow

Otherwise do the usual.

Cheers
Bolke.



> Op 23 aug. 2016, om 04:37 heeft siddharth anand <sanand@apache.org> het volgende
geschreven:
> 
> Sure, we can make it public for posterity if that will alleviate concerns
> about openness.  I don't think it will provide any value to do so because
> it will create 2 channels for the same group and will then be super hard
> for anyone to follow a conversation. As it is, with JIRA emails, PR emails,
> and dev list emails, I find it impossible to keep up. I'm completely unable
> to keep up with most gitter conversations as it is.
> 
> I'd vote to just delete that channel. Gitter, AFAIK, does not support the
> option to provide a read only archive of a dead (unjoinable) channel, so I
> feel closing the channel via filing an infra request is the best route.
> 
> Ironically, the committers' channel above was created prior to the Apache
> Incubation move to discuss the move to Apache and to coordinate the work
> required. Once Airflow moved to the Apache Incubator and the Git repo's
> ownership transitioned to the ASF Infra team, we (the members of the
> channel) lost the ability to delete this channel and let it continue its
> life out of laziness.
> 
> -s
> 
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Bolke de Bruin <bdbruin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So we ask infra to make it public?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 23 aug. 2016, at 04:02, siddharth anand <sanand@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No one on this thread owns that channel, so all we can do is leave it.
>> The
>>> owner is ASF Infra.
>>> 
>>> -s
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jakob Homan <jghoman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Gitter is fine and the public channel I linked to in the original
>>>> email is fine.  It's functionally no different than IRC.  The channel
>>>> just has to be open for any one rather than invite only.
>>>> 
>>>> -Jakob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 August 2016 at 13:10, Maxime Beauchemin
>>>> <maximebeauchemin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think Gitter must have just transferred along as we moved the repo.
>> I'm
>>>>> personally open to using IRC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Max
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bolke de Bruin <bdbruin@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also who is the owner of this room? It seems created by Apache so
they
>>>>>> (INFRA?) can set it to public? Logs will be public then by default.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wasn't there some discussion on a more relaxed requirement of this
>>>>>> happening on ASF infrastructure?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bolke.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22 aug. 2016, at 20:29, Jakob Homan <jghoman@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all-
>>>>>>> Apparently there is a private channel being used for project
>>>>>>> discussion on gitter (the archive would be here:
>>>>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/Airflow_
>>>>>> committers/archives/all,
>>>>>>> similar to the public archive of the regular gitter channel:
>>>>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/archives/all), titled
>>>>>>> "Airflow_committers."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As has been discussed before, all non-PMC level ASF communication
>>>>>>> *has* to be in a public accessible forum (preferably that is
archived
>>>>>>> to an ASF list).  Even if well intentioned, these channels are
>>>>>>> exclusionary and absolutely verboten per ASF.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We need to open or shut that channel down and make sure we note
this
>>>>>>> on the next IPMC report...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Jakob
>>>> 
>> 


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