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From Lahiru Gunathilake <>
Subject Re: [DiSCUSS] Hosted RabbitMQ Server for Airavata
Date Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:26:58 GMT
We can start a qpid server during startup and use Rabbitmq java clients as
it is. When we do real production deployment we can deploy rabbitmq server
and disable qpid during startup. There is no big difference between
rabbitmq server and Qpid server when it comes to simple day to day usage.


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Suresh Marru <> wrote:

> Hi All,
> As we get ready for the 0.14 release, one thing which always comes up is
> the installation of RabbitMQ. We addressed this for Zookeper by using
> embedded server. But thats not a good approach for RabbitMQ server since
> its in Erlang (and not in Java, unlike rest of Airavata) and forking of an
> external process on different operating systems will lead to unpredictable
> errors.
> How about we mitigate this pointing the release build to a hosted service?
> Here are some pros and cons:
> * This will alleviate the installation requirements and will go back to
> one click installation.
> * Users will not have to worry about downloading and starting up RabbitMQ
> server. But can change it to local or other installations in properties
> file.
> * If a user is trying to use Airavata without having the need for internet
> connectivity, then they have to have a local installation.
> * There is a risk of the service being down and the release being pointed
> to a stale service. This can be mitigated by a persistent CName alias which
> points to a hosted server.
> * There are popular rabbitmq hosted services [1], [2], [3] but are often
> expensive [4] for a community project.
> * Few of Airavata active developers (along with me) are part of a download
> airavata project which runs airavata as a service. Within SciGaP project
> [1] we could run a persistent service like
> atleast for near future.
> Given these tradeoff’s and options, any opinions?
> Cheers,
> Suresh
> [1] -
> [2] -
> (which claims to interoperate with rabbitmq)
> [3] -
> [4] -
> [5] -

Research Assistant
Science Gateways Group
Indiana University

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