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From Suresh Marru <sma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Lowering the barrier: Committter != PMC
Date Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:12:19 GMT
Hi Chris,

Right now to get some one onboard PMC needs a very small demonstration of interest in the
project. I think introducing a committer only role in between removes even this barrier and
we can give out commit bit's much more easy and rapidly. 

Suresh

On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:47 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
wrote:

> If PMC == C, how will introducing a committer role lower the
> barrier? Instead it would increase it, no, by making PMC != C.
> 
> Sorry just my 2cŠ
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Marru <smarru@apache.org>
> Reply-To: "dev@airavata.apache.org" <dev@airavata.apache.org>
> Date: Monday, August 5, 2013 1:03 PM
> To: Airavata Dev <dev@airavata.apache.org>
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Lowering the barrier: Committter != PMC
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Airavata currently follows Committer == PMC, I am still a supporter of
>> this model. I think this is the right thing to do and more over we want
>> all the "doers" to be the ones guiding the project. I am also a supporter
>> of the Mattman's law of Open Source which famously quotes we are in
>> recruiting business. So nothing changes on these, but I am looking to
>> mitigate some limbo's.
>> 
>> I am increasingly noticing contributors who are just caring about their
>> code contributions and not caring enough to lean the "Apache Way". While
>> this is not ideal, I am trying to think on sustainable ways instead of
>> one-off nudges. 
>> 
>> This thread is to re-vist this topic and see if introducing a commmitter
>> only role and much more lowering the barrier in giving committership will
>> reward and motivate few more contributors. The only advantage is we can
>> safely recruit commmitters based on the signs for potential to
>> contribute. When they make actual contributions and are thinking for the
>> project entirely, assisting users and release process and in other
>> project activities, we make them PMC members.  This will essentially make
>> Airavata PMC != Committters. The roles are clearly defined at -
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles This
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> This is a discussion thread only, so every one (not just current PMC)
>> please voice your  opinion on this topic.
>> 
>> Suresh
>> 
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