Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-airavata-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-airavata-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF90010437 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93240 invoked by uid 500); 19 Apr 2013 10:04:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-airavata-dev-archive@airavata.apache.org Received: (qmail 93127 invoked by uid 500); 19 Apr 2013 10:04:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@airavata.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@airavata.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@airavata.apache.org Received: (qmail 93093 invoked by uid 99); 19 Apr 2013 10:04:20 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:04:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO [172.20.2.30]) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username smarru, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:04:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: Research project on integrating geoservices with Apache Airavata From: Suresh Marru In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 06:04:19 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B44ADAD-DC34-4130-AD58-1F0FCD32A1E1@apache.org> References: To: dev@airavata.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Harsha Kumara wrote: > Thanks a lot for Chirs for providing us these resources.It's really > interesting to see the practical applications built by using > existing software systems. >=20 > This is a my point of view which I have in my mind by going through = many > research papers. >=20 > There are no well known geoscience gateways available in the world. Did you look at CyberGIS community - = http://cybergis.cigi.uiuc.edu/cyberGISwiki/doku.php/home, there is a = annual conference where papers on this topic are presented. You should = navigate through those papers and their related work to find out other = efforts in this area.=20 Suresh > But > there are few existing ones which are focusing on specific application > scenarios only.So i think there is a need of strong geoscience gateway > which can be use by starting from students to geoscientists. = Geoscience is > a emerging area where computer resources highly engaged. Geoscience = gateway > will not only will popular with geoscience people but also with > computer science people too. >=20 > I have saw how PyWPS(implementation of OGC's WPS) use with taverna for > creating geoscience workflows. According to my knowledge enhancing = geo > science capabilities in Apache Airavata will create a pathway to = originate > a fruitful geoscience gateway. >=20 > In taverna It import WPS services through WSDL for creating workflows. >=20 > I would like to have some thoughts about the starting point of = integrating > OGC services like WPS to Apache Airavata. Any help will be = appreciated. >=20 > Thanks! > Harsha >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >=20 >> Hey Amila, >>=20 >> Check out: >>=20 >> http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/pubs/SEN10.pdf >>=20 >> C. Mattmann, A. Braverman, D. Crichton. Understanding Architectural >> Tradeoffs Necessary >> to Increase Climate Model Intercomparison Efficiency. ACM SIGSOFT = Software >> Engineering >> Notes, vol. 35, no. 3, pp. 1-6, May 2010. >>=20 >> Also you may find these useful: >>=20 >> http://xldb.org/use >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I've been a long time participant of XLDB so happy to connect >> you to that community as well too if you are interested. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Senior Computer Scientist >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AMILA RANATUNGA >> Date: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:47 AM >> To: jpluser >> Cc: "dev@airavata.apache.org" , Martin >> Desruisseaux , "dev@sis.apache.org" >> , Harsha Kumara , Shahani = Markus >> Weerawarana , "dev@oodt.apache.org" >> >> Subject: Re: Research project on integrating geoservices with Apache >> Airavata >>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thank you very much for the replies so far here and in SIS dev list = as >>> well. They were really helpful. We are currently writing a research = paper >>> regarding what kind of model that should be used by when building a >>> geoscience gateway. We intend to discuss >>> issues that a geoscientist face during his/her research and features >>> that should be inserted to such a gateway to overcome them. Then we = can >>> consider them during our main project as well. It is appreciated if = you >>> can point any research papers or resources >>> where we can see this domain from an eye of a geoscientist will be >>> really useful. Even a good case study will be really helpful. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thank You ! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Sounding good, very interesting Amila.. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>>=20 >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>>=20 >>> From: Nipuni Perera >>> Reply-To: "dev@airavata.apache.org" >>> Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:52 AM >>> To: Martin Desruisseaux >>>=20 >>> Cc: AMILA RANATUNGA , "dev@sis.apache.org" >>> , "dev@airavata.apache.org" = >> , >>> Harsha Kumara , Shahani Markus Weerawarana >>>=20 >>> , "dev@oodt.apache.org" >>> Subject: Re: Research project on integrating geoservices with Apache >>> Airavata >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks for the guidance so far and we will study on the above = mentioned >>>> resources. >>>>=20 >>>> According to our understanding so far we feel that SIS can be used = to >>>> implement a server which exposes OGC web services such as WPS. >>>> We feel that in order to enable geoscientists to create workflows >>>> accessing >>>> OGC compliant web services like WPS services, the main focus will = be to >>>> integrated client side of OGC compliant web services with Airavata. >>>>=20 >>>> If SIS can be used as a library for underlying geospatial = processes what >>>> makes it different from currently exposed services. Because we = have seen >>>> that Taverna also has the ability to create geoscience workflows = using >>>> some >>>> web processing services. >>>>=20 >>>> Any comments on our thoughts are highly appreciated. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Nipuni >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Martin Desruisseaux < >>>> martin.desruisseaux@geomatys.fr> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Hello Amila >>>>>=20 >>>>> Le 06/04/13 06:25, AMILA RANATUNGA a =E9crit : >>>>>=20 >>>>> Constellation-SDI consisted of WPS, WMS, WFS as server modules. So = will >>>>> that integration make Apache SIS be considered as those services >>>>> enabled? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Yes, after the port of Constellation-SDI as Apache SIS modules >>>>> (including >>>>> the test suites that execute CITE tests), SIS should be WPS, WMS = and >>>>> WFS >>>>> (among other services) compliant. Fr=E9d=E9ric or Vincent could = hopefully >>>>> complete this list and tell more about compliance. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> And why you said " Having SIS to implement WMS, WMTS, WCS and WFS = is a >>>>> must"? What about WPS. Will that make SIS out of the scope. = Because we >>>>> feel that since Airavata using Science gateway concept, really >>>>> essential >>>>> to implement WPS too. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I cited WMS, WMTS, WCS and WFS as the minimal services that SIS = must >>>>> support because I perceive those services as the ones that every = GIS >>>>> users >>>>> take for granted. But they are only the minimum. WPS and SensorML = are >>>>> supplemental services also implemented in Constellation-SDI and to = be >>>>> proposed to Apache SIS. So WPS is not out of SIS scope, quite the >>>>> contrary >>>>> :-). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Martin >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Nipuni Piyabasi Perera >>>> Undergraduate >>>> Department of Computer Science And Engineering >>>> University of Moratuwa >>>> Sri Lanka >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > *Harsha Kumara* > *Undergraduate* > *Department of Computer Science and Engineering* > *University of Moratuwa* > *Sri Lanka.*